Law Enforcement

Loggers are backing a Vermont bill to crack down on timber thieves

If a business is culpable, H.614 allows police to seize any equipment it used for illegal activity.

U.S. Forest Service officials inspecting timber in North Carolina. Photo courtesy U.S. Forest Service.

By Holly Sullivan, for the Community News Service

Sam Lincoln wants you to know there is such a thing as an honest logger.

As the owner of Lincoln Farm Timber Harvesting in Randolph, he’s noticed  firsthand a rise in distrust toward his profession driven by timber theft and broken or deceptive contracts.

“I am frustrated that innocent landowners are harmed by timber thieves because of the negative impact on my profession,” Lincoln told House agriculture committee members Jan.12. “I hate to label (unlawful loggers as) loggers. I think they’re thieves that have chosen this profession.”

Land improvement fraud is illegal in Vermont, categorized as a type of home improvement fraud.

“The problem with this statute is that no one wants to enforce it,” legislative counsel Michael O’Grady said during a meeting of the same committee Jan. 11

The state Department of Forests, Parks and Recreation lacks the authority to prosecute cases, police officers claim it’s not their jurisdiction and filing a lawsuit yourself is tiresome and complicated, O’Grady said that day.

Local loggers share Lincoln’s sentiment, which sparked Rep. Marc Mihaly, D-East Calais, to propose H.614, a bill cracking down on land improvement fraud. The bill has been a mainstay on committee agendas this month.

“(Vermont has) been very reluctant,” said Steve Hardy, president of the Vermont Forest Products Association, in an interview. “And one of the things we’ve all been saying is, like, what’s the difference of somebody going into your house and stealing your stereo that’s worth $3,000?”

To remove ambiguities about jurisdiction, H.614 distinguishes home improvement fraud from land improvement fraud. If a professional enters a contract for home or land improvement work and knowingly fails to complete it, they would violate H.614. The bill’s language is designed to protect loggers who may accidentally damage property or misread a contract.

“We really don’t want to penalize all the good guys by making things harder for them,” Mihaly said in an interview. 

If a business is culpable, H.614 allows police to seize any equipment it used for illegal activity. Furthermore, the bill increases fines and limits the logging activities of businesses with two or more outstanding fines or judgements. As Mihaly put it in an interview, “‘These guys can no longer log at all unless they pay a bond or else work for somebody legit.” 

That’s no slap on the wrist: Logging equipment may cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Lawmakers hope the punishments will scare corrupt loggers away from scamming people. 

“This bill tries to bulk up the consequences of timber trespass,” O’Grady said. “You’re going to have a ripple effect in the community.”

Mike Carriveau — who won a lawsuit in 2019 alleging Codling Brothers Logging hadn’t paid him for logs the business took from his land — expressed in a letter to legislators that H.614’s penalties would be a step in the right direction. 

A judge ruled in 2019 that the business, owned by David, Joe and Paul Codling, owed Carriveau more than $2,000, a ruling later affirmed by an appellate court. After weeks of no payment and vague excuses, Carriveau said, he confronted the brothers about their unfulfilled promises.

“(David) told me he had used my money for a ‘deal’ he had made, and I would get paid Friday, which never happened,” Carriveau said in the letter. “I went back to the landing later, only to confront Paul, who told me he was going to counterclaim, stating I owed him for tree service. This was never discussed or part of any contract.” 

But Carriveau’s legal win is an exception to the norm. During his legal battle, Carriveau wrote in the letter, he met with other victims who weren’t as lucky.

“Most businesses pointed out (to victims) they knew the system favors the perpetrators, and throwing money at a lawyer was a waste of time and effort,” Carriveau said. “(Victims) would be better off working to recap their loss.” 

Mihaly feels confident in H.614’s future. He said he has heard nothing but universal support. 

“I’m hopeful that this bill will pass,” Mihaly told Community News Service. “You have two kinds of reception. There’s the people who think, ‘Yeah, I’ve been hearing about this for years, and I hope to God he can really do something about this.’ And then there’s the people who say, ‘What? I can’t believe that this is going on!’ And both groups are supportive. I haven’t seen any opposition.”

How would the bill, if passed, be better enforced than existing rules? Mihaly said it will depend on the Vermont attorney general to step up as county prosecutors have too few resources.

Loggers believe H.614 is a necessary development in an ongoing issue.

“Timber harvesters are not generally in favor of more government regulation,” Dana Doran, executive director of the Professional Logging Contractors of the Northeast, told the House agriculture committee Jan. 12.

“However, we believe that the legislation before you is an important step forward to professionalize the industry in Vermont, protect landowners and ensure that this industry moves forward without a black eye that has festered here for decades,” Doran said.

Hardy, the forest products association president, said timber theft is rare and carried out by a handful of people. The industry wants the problem to go away, he said. “But you know, you can’t paint loggers all with a bad brush.”

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8 replies »

  1. The weird counterpoint to this is ‘tree as enemy’ — I keep waiting for a scary – a la jaws/snakes on a plane/amityville – movie to come out depicting all the ways trees are killers, dangerous, and we should shoot, I mean log and cut down, all of them…
    Yeah…weird hunh?
    Go look at insurance policies re trees, (emotional blackmail anyone?), telecom right of ways, and if the state or city has any say on whether a tree comes down or not…or whether its carbon sequestization value has been…evaluated, individually.
    Awww…but there are so many trees…
    And what function do trees serve for LIFE ON PLANET EARTH?
    Maybe we really ought to be rethinking how we see…nature and trees…and living in Vermont.
    Sigh.

  2. thank you for the load of fire wood a logger just delivered/// getting set up for next winter/// hope any new laws do not put the small logging operations out of business/// you always have to wonder what the real intent is///

  3. H.614, on its surface looks like a straight forward Bill to protect land owners of being screwed from non payment. I don’t want to be a pestimist, but as a third generation Vermonter I have come to a point of distrust in our Vermont legislation.
    A law for police to seize equipment from people involved in illegal activities. In the shadows of Carbon Tax of fossil fuels for Vermont, one has to question when they will try to regulate or even ban the burning of wood for heat, as many Vermonter’s already do. Would H.614 give police the ability to seize your personal equipment when you are harvesting trees on your own land, once they ban heating with wood ? Once H.614 is on the books, who monitors Legislation on what they call legal ?

  4. Been planning to do our land for quite a while. The honest ones are too busy. The cheats are more than happy to rob you. Luckily these days you can search a name and find all the court cases pending.

  5. “The problem with this statute is that no one wants to enforce it”

    This is the problem in Vermont. You can’t get any justice. People can steal from store with impunity. People can steal from the populace with impunity. They hang out under the Golden dome with no oversight whatso ever.

    You can, however, deal drugs with impunity, across our state, ruining families at epic proportions.

    When we open the doors for seizure of property, but we don’t for drug dealers, we’re opening pandora’s box.

  6. question/// have any of you loggers bought an electric log skidder/// real quiet in the woods/// call your dealer for more information///