By Guy Page
The Vermont Agency of Education has rescinded its ‘direction’ that all Vermont school districts require masking of all students and staff. As of Monday, March 14, masks will be optional, Agency Secretary Dan French said at a press conference yesterday.
To allow for an implementation period, these recommendations will take effect Monday, March
14, 2022,” French said, reading from an agency memo issued yesterday. “Effective on that date, there will be no school-specific COVID-19 prevention and mitigation recommendations issued by the State of Vermont.”
Schools should encourage their students, staff and families to follow the Vermont Department
of Health’s recommendations for all Vermonters. The Health Department will update these
recommendations as public health circumstances warrant, the memo says.
Also, school COVID-19 testing programs (response testing and staff assurance testing) will be phased out “at some point” in favor of students and staff accessing the same testing programs provided to all Vermonters, the memo says.
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In other words….mid-terms are coming and we want to play nice now.
NEVER forget what the left has done to this country over the past 2 years. NEVER.
I guess those Montpelier kids will be triple masked now to compensate for their unmasked classmates! Oh the horror!
One of my largest fears about all of this is about to come true isn’t it.
They’re going to get away with it.
Science doesn’t matter for this group of leaders. DID YOU KNOW that Covid 19 enters the body through ACE2 receptors? Children have very few ACE2 receptors and therefore have natural way to inhibit the virus from getting a hold and replicating in their bodies. It’s pretty amazing when resultant outcomes follow the science. It’s a fact that duration and close exposure in confined spaces causes the spread of the Covid virus. It is the amount of virus particles that actually attach to one’s ACE2 receptors that makes you get sick from the virus. Let’s have logic instead of emotion direct our decisions. Is anyone listening? Does anyone care?
A thousands days late and a thousand dollars short.
They’re starting to wake up and smell the coffee finally! Oh – and it doesn’t hurt that the mid-terms are just around the corner either!
This was just posted yesterday by The NY Times!! Seems like they are scrambling to reposition themselves quickly. After 2 years of demonizing us for saying these things, it’s ok to say them now as it’s coming from them?
“What does the science say?
Although public health experts agree that school mask mandates should not last forever, they differ on whether the time has come to remove them.
But scientists are largely reassured by the fact that kids almost never suffer severe symptoms, whether or not they’re vaccinated. Many students have gone to school without masks during the pandemic — including in Britain, parts of Europe and many U.S. states — and very few children have gotten seriously sick.
Experts also pointed out that while the risk Covid poses to children is real, it’s about the same as the risk of the flu. And many prominent doctors cite the mental health strain that children have faced during the pandemic and the educational value of seeing full faces.”
The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded. To prove it all you need to look at how the seasonal flu and cold disappeared in March 2020 until last fall. I can’t believe how many people don’t see through this.
Same as the flu?
Not true, you LIE.
https://www.onlymyhealth.com/omicron-covid-variant-40-percent-more-lethal-than-seasonal-flu-study-1646381065
“It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.” Mark Twain
A quick check of the link that Tim T provided reveals that the article did not provide links to the studies they cited, so we are left to trust the authors of the article. This is not a healthy sign. Moreover this site seems to parrot all the mis- dis- and mal- information of the government narrative, i.e., propaganda.
Life insurance deaths up by 40%:
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/life-insurance-deaths-up-40—dr-robert-malone-s-chilling-analysis/article_d24bccac-6f38-11ec-912f-1f6d8fc5fac4.html
Must have been a bad flu strain.
And then there are the excess deaths in 2020 and 2021:
https://usafacts.org/articles/covid-excess-deaths-causes-2021/
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The excess deaths that have occurred in this country (and all over the world), since early 2020 continuing through 2021 and now into 2022, were NOT caused by the flu.
Anyone that wants to repeatedly spout the LIE that Covid-19 is the flu is a provable LIAR.
Standing on the “Covid is just a flu” LIE is a prime example of “mis- dis- and mal- information”.
It adds no value to any discussion based on reality.
Those who continue to spout this lie, please STOP LYING.
For everyone’s good.
Re: “Must have been a bad flu strain.”
No. Your citation of the increase in Life Insurance claims indicates that the surge in deaths is more likely caused by a bogus vaccine – more accurately described as experimental ‘gene-therapy’ – a process that damages our broad-spectrum natural immune system allowing all sorts of viral and bacterial maladies to increase, including gain-of-function Covid variations. Never mind the deaths by suicide and drug overdose caused by gaslighting those who criticize the government and its blind-faith followers.
But go ahead – keep changing the subject. That gives us the opportunity to demonstrate that you, of all people, should be following Mark Twain’s advice.
I keep changing the subject? (Pot meet kettle.)
How much did vaccines contribute to the excess deaths in 2020?
Did I ever write my opinion on what caused the excess deaths?
No.
But I have used sources to bolster the FACT that the Covid-19 virus is NOT “just the flu.”
The Covid-19 is NOT the flu and anyone who repeatedly says that it is is a LIAR.
I’m not changing the subject.
I’ve been very consistent on my point.
@ Alex A
Covid and the flu are not the same; 2 different viruses. The main reason that I suspect that the flu has been MIA while Covid has been running rampant is that viruses sort of have non-compete agreements. In order to each have their time they essentially have worked out a schedule of sorts so they don’t overlap. Covid, being new on the scene hasn’t yet done this. So while Covid was hitting hard, the flu couldn’t compete. I’d suspect that down the road, endemic Covid will figure out a place in the timetable and the flu will return once again. At least this is what I suspect is going on, as opposed to those who actually believe that masks are preventing the flu.
To Tim T.:
Re: “Did I ever write my opinion on what caused the excess deaths? No.”
Oh, yes you did. You said the excess deaths were caused by something other than the flu.
“The excess deaths that have occurred in this country (and all over the world), since early 2020 continuing through 2021 and now into 2022, were NOT caused by the flu.”
It’s difficult enough to keep all of your ever-changing topics straight without having to remind you what you said and didn’t say.
VTIndependent:
Actually, not only can the flu infect some while Covid infects others, apparently they can infect a person at the same time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/covid-flu-same-time/620729/
@ H Jay Eshelman
I’m not saying that it’s impossible for Covid and the flu to ever coexist or even infect someone at the same time. I’m hypothesizing that it wouldn’t be conducive to the ultimate aim of the virus as it would cause competition for terrain(us). Thus partitioning the year might well be to their advantage. The polio virus for instance was at its worst in the hot summer months. But this is a theory I’m proposing and time will tell.
Let’s please recognize this decision is wholly science-based…political science that is. The polls are showing that most people have had enough of the hygiene theater and will take it out on those elected officials who persist in mandating it. Some level of common-sense social distancing can remain in place though as far as I’m concerned…people should always give each other some space in busy public places. This china virus will remain endemic, just like influenza and the common cold, and a little space between people reduces the spread of ALL respiratory viruses. Another piece of Faucian advice that actually makes sense going into the future is to STAY AWAY FROM OTHERS WHEN YOU ARE ILL. That is just part of being a decent human being. Since we can’t count on everyone to be so conscientious, the social distancing helps.
Who cares that over half of all children that contract the most likely lab created Covid-19 have at least one symptom 12 weeks later?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/
What are the Dr’s seeing in relation to the effects of Covid 19 on kids? Here’s a firsthand testimonial:
https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2022/03/05/whats-unknown-covid-19-s-long-term-impact-kids/9379604002/
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Maybe if Americans just bury their head in the sand and play ostrich, and pretend Covid-19 doesn’t exist and isn’t doing lifelong damage to a whole generation of children, it will make it not true.
H Jay writes, “ You said the excess deaths were caused by something other than the flu.”
You are correct.
That is my stance.
Do you believe all the excess deaths were caused by the flu?
( I can’t believe I’m wasting time arguing whether or not over a million excess deaths in the last 2 years were caused by the flu or not.)
I’ll leave the ‘believing’, the ‘arguing’, and the ‘wasting time’ to you. I have enough to do just keeping the facts straight.
Again you are correct!
I agree.
You do have a problem keeping your facts straight.
🙂
🙂
To be fair, who doesn’t have a hard time getting the facts straight in our time?
I don’t claim to have all the facts straight.
I do get annoyed by Alex A. continuously claiming that Covid is just the flu.
I’m not looking to be you or anyone else’s enemy.
I’m looking to expand the debate, not limit it.
I try to expand the debate within reality, though.
Covid-19 is not the flu.
Alex A. should stop repeating that lie.
It doesn’t add value to trying to find the facts.
You should stop defending him.
If you are.
Unless you’re just trolling me.
Oh Timmy. Where did the flu go and it isn’t it amazing that the PCR test was just discontinued because it can’t discriminate between the two? Isn’t also amazing how the flu magically disappeared in March 2020.
Oh poor Timmy. Go play with the little kids….and don’t forget your booster!
Hi Alex A:
Do you choose to continue to spread the LIE:
“The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
Do you stand by your words?
Define “excess deaths”. Cdc has yet to release actual stats on deaths they all say “estimated excess deaths”.
As for covid being the flu Alex is mostly correct. The PCR test were calibrated to the flu strains and unable to differentiate (you can simply look up December 31st cdc.gov PCR on Google and find the article that explains that).
Anything with specific symptoms like loss of taste and smell was some kind of poisoning most likely with graphene oxide (this one is my opinion based upon what I have seen and read).
Everything else was either a cold or a flu and the hospitals are the ones that murdered those who tested positive for the test that was not testing for covid based upon a protocol that paid them money.
Now new cases of actual covid mostly come from those who are vaccinated because they’re walking producers of the spike protein.
Alex A.: “The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
Alex A. claims that “covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
He repeatedly claims it IS the flu.
His claim is completely dishonest and I’ve pointed it out to him numerous times yet he continues to LIE.
It is FACT that the Covid-19 virus is NOT the flu.
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Excess deaths = Reported deaths minus Expected deaths
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Keep in mind excess deaths are happening worldwide since early 2020, NOT just in the USA.
Also in Russia, Iran, Europe, Africa, Chile, Brazil, almost of the countries of the world. (Both friends and enemies of the USA, btw.)
Nearly everywhere except China and a few other places that had strict controls. (Whether one agrees with the controls or not it kept their excess deaths down according to the data.)
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Although worldwide data is showing the vaccines to be ineffective and statistically more harmful than any “vaccine” in history, the vaccines couldn’t have caused the excess deaths in 2020.
The Covid-19 virus (arguably a bio weapon) that is NOT THE FLU is a problem all on it’s own.
The “vaccines” that aren’t vaccines have compounded the overall Corona plague problem.
“It is FACT that the Covid-19 virus is NOT the flu.”
This is not a fact you are incorrect. Nowhere has any country had a live version of the virus. This has been backed up with FOIA requests all over the world. The vaccine makers themselves never had a live virus, the CDC alludes to it and then when you go to read through their paperwork they never had a live version either. There was a doctor out in California that took 1500 covid-19 positive tests where people were actually sick and admitted to the hospital. He split their specimens into two pieces one of which he had verified for covid-19 and the others he sent off to be to a different company to be verified for influenza a or b. They all came back influenza A. Statistically that should be impossible, however the test themselves were calibrated using the flu. The CDC admits this and it’s post to claiming that the PCR test would no longer be used in December 31st of 2020. So even if it does exist we have no physical proof. As I said above I believe some people were poison enough to make panic.
Going back to the excess deaths. The CDC has yet to release deaths for 2020. It is all estimated excess deaths. Not that I can say for sure that the sources that you listed above are false, but gathering mortality data for an entire country is a difficult task, so you have to wonder where they got the data. I went and looked because I was curious. It turns out (not surprisingly at this point) that they both get the data from the CDC. Yet the CDC has not released their official data. Also each source implemented a new way of tracking the data specifically for Covid (highly suspect). Lastly one of the heads of one of the two data companies used to work for the UN (also suspect).
The excess deaths that you’re talking about are likely literally the hospital killing more people than they normally do for profit. If you don’t believe me listen to Dr Ardys explain exactly how.
The most accurate health data on Earth is kept by our military. When you look at that data you find almost no covid-19 deaths (which are rebranded anything and everything), yet very high issues with the vaccines, once again pointing to there was no covid-19 but the vaccines are causing all of the issues now.
Wow. (And you call me myopic?)
From Princeton’s Wordnet:
scientific fact (noun)
an observation that has been confirmed repeatedly and is accepted as true (although its truth is never final)
I don’t know what to do with your complete denial of reality.
Except to say goodbye and good luck.
I apologize, Brian, you did not call me myopic. (I confused you with H Jay.)
And many of the points/questions you raise are worth discussing and digging to find the most accurate data possible.
It’s a shame that the data is so hidden and distorted, ESPECIALLY in the USA.
Excess deaths have been reported all over the world, not just in the USA.
Even in Russia, Iran, Turkey, enemies of the USA.
Why would they report those #’s if they weren’t actual?
To support the USA?
And those excess deaths started in early 2020, suggesting that the excess deaths in 2021 weren’t ALL from the vaccines.
Why would China go to the lengths they have to control the spread if the Covid-19 virus was the flu virus?
The Covid-19 virus is NOT the flu virus.
At this point in history that the Covid-19 virus and the flu virus are NOT the same virus is an accepted scientific fact.
Brian: What’s the point of this ‘pissing match’? – pardon my ‘french’.
Where are your sources?
The NIH details the difference between the flu and Covid in my last citation. Yes, they are similar. But they’re not the same.
In fact, no two flu viruses are the same either, because they mutate. And some Omicron variants contain fragments of the common cold virus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=verKxScPIy8
What’s the difference between Covid, a cold, and the flu? If you really want to know, do the research.
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/cold-flu-covid-differences.html
If we knew everything there is to know about the common cold, the flu, and Covid variants, we’d likely be able to cure them. But we can’t.
The point that’s becoming more and more clear every day is that our God given natural immune system, with broad-spectrum antibodies that have been developing for thousands of years, are better at fighting Covid than the current gene therapy (i.e., so-called mRNA vaccines).
People with significant co-morbidities may benefit from this experimental stuff – temporarily. But the jury is still out long term.
So, what’s your point?
“It’s a shame that the data is so hidden and distorted, ESPECIALLY in the USA.
Excess deaths have been reported all over the world, not just in the USA.
Even in Russia, Iran, Turkey, enemies of the USA.
Why would they report those #’s if they weren’t actual?
To support the USA?”
You’re thinking only as an American but this is a worldwide effort to take control. Do you think they don’t have cdcs and corrupt politicians that are lying and news organizations that are basically the same as in the US?
“At this point in history that the Covid-19 virus and the flu virus are NOT the same virus is an accepted scientific fact.”
You’re incorrect covid as a virus has never been seen in the wild at least not until people were injected. The injection is the bio weapon covid-19 was the scare tactic. It was the practice run for what they can do in the media to scare you and it obviously worked. It worked on me for a couple of months too. Simply take a step back and think about it from a 100,000 ft view. Have you ever in your life been offered lottery money marijuana beer lap dances hamburgers to go get a jab in your arm? Come on.
Again I will also tell you that covid-19 was a combination of things. It absolutely was the flu in most cases. Things like car accidents heart attacks all those things were labeled as covid-19 as well for profit. The symptoms that do not fit with the flu such as the loss of taste and loss of smell which I also experienced were some form of poisoning. Enough for them to call this “novel” which means new or a fictitious prose narrative (they don’t lie they just tell half truths).
Jay let’s start with what I agree with:
“The point that’s becoming more and more clear every day is that our God given natural immune system, with broad-spectrum antibodies that have been developing for thousands of years, are better at fighting Covid than the current gene therapy (i.e., so-called mRNA vaccines).”
You are absolutely correct other than the fact that covid didn’t exist before the jabs as we were poisoned.
As for sources I’m tired of giving them nobody goes and reads them anyways. I specifically asked to go look for this and it pokes a hole in most of everything you’ve said. I’ll do it for you this time but you need to go do more reading. You’re part of the way there but when you figure out that they lied to you about all this crap and all the other stuff they’re going to lie to you about coming in the future then you won’t have to have this conversation.
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
“CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses”
“So what’s my point”
Well you two seem to be struggling with the fact that covid-19 was a giant big fat lie to get you to take a shot in the arm that will tie you to a social credit score system that will enslave you more than you are now. You both seem to be so eager to prove your point that you missed the big picture. This is all by design it’s all meant to be confusing so we argue with each other back and forth. They lied about covid-19 100%. The government the media the medical system and big business were all in on it.
I just wanted you two to be further down the line; two more people that understand how much they’ve really lied, with maybe a few more people who bother to read the comments getting it too.
So are both of you going to continue to argue about who’s right about covid-19 or you both just going to understand that all this was done to take our money our rights and our freedoms away from us, and that they’re just getting started?
Whoa. One step at a time, Brian. As plausible as this now seems to me, allow me to interrogate.
Re: “You are absolutely correct other than the fact that covid didn’t exist before the jabs as we were poisoned.”
Are you saying Covid-19 didn’t exist before the vaccines (i.e., the experimental mRNA gene therapy) created in Trumps’ ‘Warp Speed’ program were developed?
Indeed, the development of the mRNA technology used to create these ‘vaccines’ has been decades in the making. Messenger RNA, or mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s; research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the 1970s. But it wasn’t until advances in nanotechnology and the global COVID-19 pandemic of 2020 that the first mRNA vaccine was brought to market?
I suppose it’s reasonable to assume that gain-of-function research and ‘vaccine’ development actually occurred simultaneously. I put nothing past Dr. Fauci and his Dr. Frankenstein alter ego, especially given the amount of money they control in the process.
Furthermore, your resource citation doesn’t come right out and connect these dots. But I have to admit, again, it’s certainly a plausible scenario.
Am I missing something?
“Are you saying Covid-19 didn’t exist before the vaccines (i.e., the experimental mRNA gene therapy) created in Trumps’ ‘Warp Speed’ program were developed?”
I don’t think it existed outside of a Lab at that time I think we were being poisoned so that we come up with odd symptoms (like the loss of taste and smell) and people were whipped up into a frenzy by the media. At the same time there was a pretty nasty flu virus going around from December on and anyone who went to the hospital was labeled a covid case and given a treatment that kills approximately 30% of everyone (Dr Ardys walks you through that). To see what I mean about them playing games with case counts just go match the number of cases around the 2020 election and then to the 20th of January when Biden was put in office and you see the cases just drop and they’re obviously controlled. (The large Spike on the right is from them testing so much more think of all the requirements that people had to go through for these last 3 months, remember the test is inaccurate so the more you test the more you find).
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases
“Furthermore, your resource citation doesn’t come right out and connect these dots.”
I don’t understand it literally says that it also detects the flu. The flu cases were almost zero which I don’t ever remember happening so therefore a good chunk of the cases they were picking up were the flu. Now I know what the news kept telling you but a friend of mine and I went through every state’s data individually. When accounting for the comorbidity rate (described below) the mortality rate was identical to that of the flu at .02%. At the time friend and I did not know the information that Dr Ardys provided but we knew there was some excess mortality but it was only from people who were sick enough to go to the hospital.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
“For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death”
Think about the money here. 19,000 if you find a case in the hospital and 100,000 if put on a ventilator plus the hospital still gets money for the organs donated if the patient dies. If they want the case counts to go up and they want the mortality rate of it to go up they have to put covid on every single death certificate. Which they did. I’ll let you go find this one but in March of 2020 the CDC changed the accounting practices on the death certificates to say any suspected case of covid not tested just suspected. If you have a slight cough before you die you’re a covid case. Now you tie that with the statement above and start to think about it, anybody who died got covid marked on their birth certificate and it was incentivized by the federal government.
Have you ever heard of a virus that you never get sick from but can pass on to other people before? Still ashamed I fell for that one for any length of time.
This is why the mortality rate for 2020 is so important and it’s obvious why they’re hiding it. This is why they say estimated excess deaths. Now in 2021 they don’t need to hide the excess deaths because people are dying from the jab and they get to blame it on the original non-existent problem. Try asking the hospital currently for any data surrounding heart problems. They won’t even talk to you. They full well know what they did.
They are doing it worldwide and it’s all being controlled from the world economic forum. Those are all of the people that are in on it and all the people that are moving forward with it and if you go watch the talks from davos in 2020 you’ll start to hear what they’re doing. If you want to connect even more of the players look at the WEF global young leaders. Klaus Schwab the leader of the world economic forum literally says “we have infiltrated almost every government”.
So yeah I’d say you probably are missing quite a bit.
OK Tim T. et al: One more time.
While your intentions, Tim T, may be honorable (in your humble opinion), your practice belies your insecurity. If anyone is ‘trolling’, you are.
You tell me, I can’t keep my facts straight, and yet you provide no evidence. None. You’re the one who said: “Did I ever write my opinion on what caused the excess deaths? No.” Only to admit in the next breath that I was correct in my assessment that you did write the opinion. What else have I written here that’s not factual?
And you’re not the only one getting it wrong. Just read this abstract from the NIH published in 2020.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33064680/
And pay special attention to the last sentence.
“Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and Alphainfluenzavirus are RNA viruses that cause coronavirus disease-19 and influenza, respectively. Both viruses infect the respiratory tract, show similar symptoms, and use surface proteins to infect the host. Influenza requires hemagglutinin and neuraminidase to infect, whereas SARS-CoV-2 uses protein S. Both viruses depend on a viral RNA polymerase to express their proteins, but only SARS-CoV-2 has a proofreading mechanism, which results in a low mutation rate compared to influenza. E1KC4 and camostat mesylate are potential inhibitors of SARS-CoV-2 S protein, achieving an effect similar to oseltamivir. Due to the SARS-CoV-2 low mutation rate, nucleoside analogs have been developed (such as EIDD-2801), which insert lethal mutations in the viral RNA. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2 low mutation rate suggests that a vaccine, as well as the immunity developed in recovered patients, could provide long-lasting protection compared to vaccines against influenza, which are rendered obsolete as the virus mutates.”
The NIH is guilty of the false dichotomy racket more than anyone else. Is it any wonder that it’s difficult keeping ‘the facts straight’? Again, here’s the last sentence.
“Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2 low mutation rate suggests that a vaccine, as well as the immunity developed in recovered patients, could provide long-lasting protection compared to vaccines against influenza, which are rendered obsolete as the virus mutates.”
First, note that the NIH declares that Covid has a ”low mutation rate’.
Really? So, what variant are we up to now? The Delta variant, the Omicron variant? These are gain-of-function viruses. Which means they were designed to mutate.
Second, note the claim of a ‘low mutation rate’ (again, what we now know to be an incorrect assessment), “…suggests that a vaccine” … “could provide long-lasting protection compared to vaccines against influenza, …”.
We now know this isn’t true either. How many boosters are recommended? How long are they efficacious? Six months, maybe, at best.
Third, so how does the NIH cover its ass when making these declarations? Consider the second clause of the sentence, when it qualifies the vaccine assessment to include ”… the immunity developed in recovered patients, …”.
Well, guess what? We now know that the “…immunity developed in recovered patients, …” (i.e., natural immunity) is more efficacious than any number of vaccine injections. So, yes, the NIH was technically correct, when its statement is taken as a whole, but outrageously deceptive none the less.
So, what’s going on here? How can any of us expect to ‘get the facts straight’ given this deception by those in government charged with getting it right?
As usual – follow the money. The NIH distributes more than $40 billion in research grants annually (that’s every year). And the NIH partners with Big Pharma in the research process. Pfizer alone doubled its profitability in the first year of the Covid crisis.
What is “EIDD-2801”? What is camostat mesylate? These are products available from Merck and Biotechne respectively, developed in collusion with the NIH. They have a current patent (as opposed Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and other effective therapeutics).
Is it any wonder we’re confused and fighting with each other? We’re being played! And so are our local officials. Vermont received more than $10 billion in ‘Covid relief’ over the last year. That’s double its annual budget. Hospitals receive financial incentives to declare patients as having Covid. Any doctor who speaks out is at risk of being gaslighted.
And it gets worse. The Life Insurance report Tim T. cites for good measure, is supporting the contention of Drs. Malone, McCullough and many others – that the vaccine (which is really an experimental gene therapy) inhibits the broad-spectrum antibodies in our natural immune system from functioning properly, which may be (I repeat – ‘may be’) why the increased deaths are the result of all sorts of maladies – not just the flu, not just Covid.
In closing, for now at least, let’s get back to the point of Guy’s article. Kids don’t have to wear masks anymore. And thank God for that. It appears that our good governor is catching on. Keep in mind that only one person in Vermont under the age of 30 has died of (or rather, with) Covid. And he was a 28-year-old drug addict who died from an overdose. An autopsy later found a trace of Covid in his system.
So, there’s no point in fighting amongst ourselves when criticized. Use the opportunity to express the facts. In the words of Joe Friday, from Dragnet …. Just the facts ma’am. Just the facts.
Just the facts:
Fact #1: The Covid-19 virus is NOT the flu.
It is a completely different virus.
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You can’t admit I am 100% correct in my consistent position throughout this exchange that Covid-19 is NOT the flu for some reason.
You do anything to wiggle out from addressing my main and consistent point/FACT that Covid-19 is NOT the flu.
And try to paint me as wrong or misled.
That is not honorable or honest.
“Just the facts ma’am. Just the facts.”
Re: “You can’t admit I am 100% correct in my consistent position throughout this exchange that Covid-19 is NOT the flu for some reason.”
Show us where I state anything to the contrary.
Re: “You can’t admit I am 100% correct in my consistent position throughout this exchange that Covid-19 is NOT the flu for some reason.”
Show us where I state anything to the contrary.
Cat got your tongue, Tim T.?
Your silence is deafening.
If you agree with me why do you keep trolling me>
LOL! Poor wittle Timmy. Go back to digger or where ever you came from.
Covid is just a bad cold/light flu and ALL the covid deaths you keep citing were calculated using a test that was never intended for diagnostic purposes and has a 95% false positive rate.
I’d recommend you pick up RFK Jrs book but I think your a paid troll. You certainly are mighty busy on this thread.
Hi Alex A:
Do you choose to continue to spread the LIE:
“The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
Do you stand by your words?
Yes, I agreed with you – that Covid and the flu are different. In fact, my point was that I never disagreed in that regard. And I sincerely appreciate that you now recognize, belated as it may be, that you were wrong to claim otherwise. Thank you.
I had a hard time understanding that you agreed that it is a lie to say that “covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded” and that Alex A should stop repeatedly repeating the lie.
Seeing as you seemingly argued against any supporting evidence that I cited.
And never held Alex A to account.
And it was hard to see past the condescension towards myself that was littered into many of your supportive responses.
Who knew that holding Alex A to account for his stupid statement, in an effort to at least clear a small part of the field from trash (so anyone who may be reading Alex A’s statements won’t get sidetracked in the future by his gross misrepresentation of the truth), would lead to so much enmity, wasted time and effort?
Dang Right I do Timmy. Do you spend on all day on this thread Timmy?
Now Wittle Timmy. Please tell us where the flu went and how the PCR test works. But you won’t do that wittle Timmy.
Bye bye Timmy.
This board really needs an ignore button.
Alex A.: “The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
You say you stand by the above words, “Dang Right I do Timmy.”
To be clear, you actually believe the above statement, your statement, to be true?
In fairness, Alex A., I suggest that you read my comment to Tim T et al. (above) in this regard. All of the information I can find indicates that Covid-19 and the Flu, while similar in certain aspects, have different characteristics in other aspects. Yes, both can make us sick. But the PCR tests are not clearly definitive in this regard.
PCR stands for Polymerase Chain Reaction. It’s a molecular test analyzing your upper respiratory specimen for genetic material (ribonucleic acid or RNA) of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But, again, it’s unclear whether or not the test can differentiate between COVID-19 and the flu, because coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and Alphainfluenzavirus are both RNA viruses that cause coronavirus disease-19 and influenza.
One thing is obvious to me. If the NIH can’t be any more precise than they’ve been, the odds are we neophytes won’t be precise either.
So, again, what’s the point of arguing these details? My complaint about Tim T. was his misrepresentation of what I said, not of the scientific details. And if he can admit he was wrong in that regard, doesn’t it serve the conversation to admit that Covid-19, the flu, and the PCR tests, are less definitive than we would like?
Now, if you have other information, I would, of course, like to see it.
Again, at least Governor Scott is catching on and letting kids go to school without masks – which have been shown, definitively, not only to be ineffective but dangerous over the long term. Hopefully, Scott and Dr. Levine will realize that the vaccines (experimental gene therapy) are equally ineffective in protecting kids, potentially, even more dangerous than masks, and not worth the risks they take just for the money.
Tim. You clearly have an agenda and are not open to any form of rational debate.
This is my last reply to anything you ever post on this board.
If you provide an in depth description of the PCR test and how it has been used in this pandemic and its many faults I may consider responding but at this stage I can conclude that you are nothing more than a troll/shill and have nothing rational, insightful or meaningful to add to any form of rational discourse regarding the Covid 19 ‘pandemic’.
I wish you the best on your journey.
Hmmm.
Alex A: “The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
Yet I’m the one who has “nothing rational, insightful, or meaningful to add to any form of rational discourse regarding the Covid 19 ‘pandemic’.” (According to Alex A.)
HA HA HA!
At least you’re a funny guy who repeatedly makes “rational, insightful, or meaningful” statements like “The reason why the covid risk is the same as the flu is because covid IS the seasonal flu rebranded.”
A real addition to “rational discourse” you add to the discussion.
NOT. If you stand by your words.
But as a human being you have just as much value as I.
I also wish you the best on your journey.