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by Stu Lindberg
In a recent radio interview, our Secretary of State, Sara Copland Hanzas, painted a dishonestly rosy picture of Vermont’s current elections system. She responded to the host’s question about potential “ballot stuffing” by saying, “We have very detailed election procedures that our town and city clerks follow to a tee, which means that whether they’re pulling in the ballots that came in today’s mail or they are working on election day as people are coming and casting their ballot in person, there are multiple eyes on every step of the process. To imagine there is some widespread fraud going on would have to include nearly everyone.”
This is just not true. I don’t think most Vermonters realize how drastically Vermont’s election system was changed through a law passed by the Vermont’s legislature in May of 2021. A law that Copeland Hanzas, then a Representative and chair of the House Government Operations Committee, was largely responsible for.
While Vermont’s previous election laws required strict ballot chain of custody, Copeland Hanzas’ 2021 law, with its emphasis on mailed ballots, eliminated that critical feature. As a result, today we can no longer know with any degree of surety who actually voted the majority of the returned ballots in an election.
When Copeland Hanzas says, “there are multiple eyes on every step of the process,” she is not telling the truth. There are no official eyes on the process at any time after the ballots are mailed out to the time they are returned to the Clerk. Nobody sees who the ballot is delivered to, or if it is delivered at all. When ballots are returned by mail, nobody witnesses who fills out the ballot, the voter it’s attributed to on the checklist or someone else. Nor can we know if the ballot is filled out in privacy or is improperly influenced by, for example, an abusive spouse or manipulative caregiver or a campaign worker paying bribe. In cases where ballots are mailed in or left in drop boxes, nobody has eyes on who is returning completed ballots for whom or if they’re “stuffing” the mailbox. The reality is our elections are, for the most part, completely unsupervised at least for every critical step of the process, and therefore their true accuracy is unverifiable and unknowable.
When Copeland Hanzas claims, “To imagine there is some widespread fraud going on would have to include nearly everyone,” this is again not true. While I am not claiming here that widespread fraud is happening (it may or may not be, we can’t know for sure), it is very possible for mail in ballot fraud to take place at any scale completely beyond the oversight of any election officials. No election official needs to be “in on it” because our current election system leaves them almost entirely out of it. From the time ballots are mailed out by the state to the time are returned to the Clerk’s office, no local election official has any idea what happens to them, legal or otherwise.
Nor, when the ballots are returned by mail or drop box, do election officials have any tools available to verify that the voter information included with the ballot is accurate. Vermont has no ID requirements, no signature verification procedure, or anything that would allow an election official to determine if a ballot had been fraudulently filled out.
If I got your ballot in the mail accidentally or through other underhanded means, filled it out, signed your name which I would know from the envelope it was mailed in, and sent it in, no election official in Vermont would or could question the validity of that vote. Even if you showed up on election day, were told you already voted by mail, and you contested that, while you might be allowed to vote again (or for the first time), the original fraudulent vote would probably still be counted because we allow vote counting to begin thirty days before election day, and there is no way to retrieve the vote once counted. So, even though you cast a ballot, your legitimate vote would be canceled out by the fraudulent one, as if you never voted at all. It’s ridiculous!
Copeland Hanzas tells us that “there are multiple eyes on every step of the process” because that is what a secure, fair and accurate election system requires. It’s what voters want to hear. It’s what we deserve, but we don’t have that now. We need to get back to a system where there are, in practice, multiple eyes on every step of the process from registering a voter to casting a ballot to counting the votes. But to achieve this we will need to pass new election laws that meet this standard. I hope our lawmakers will do this in 2026.
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If media outlets in Vermont were honest every one of them would be publishing this very factual article.
The VT Secretary of State and the other DEMS/PROGS tell us our Vermont Election System is secure. They say “Show us the Election Fraud!”
We the Vermont Voters should say “Show us how you KNOW the System does not have Corruption and Fraud.” You have NO WAY TO SHOW US PROOF!!
With an ALL-Mailed Ballot System there is NO BALLOT CHAIN OF CUSTODY. There is NO WAY TO AUDIT ANY VERMONT ELECTION to be able to show the the System is Trustworthy, without Corruption or Fraud.
Vermont Voters need to Rise Up, write to their VT Elected Officials and demand a PROVABLE and AUDITABLE Vermont State Election System that we can ALL KNOW is Trustworthy!
Here is another reason Vermont should not have all mail in ballots. The ballots go out so early that people are voting before they even know who the candidates are. The ballots go out about two weeks after the primary. This gives little time for the winners of the primary to conduct a campaign. I called the Sec of State to complain about this and she said the ballots have to go out this early so military voters have time to return their ballots. She had no sympathy for candidates who wish to get their names out to the public before they vote.
When the first all mail in ballots went out I received three ballots that did not belong to me. When I called the Sec, of State to complain about this I was told not to use those ballots. How would anybody know if I used them or not. I am very much against all mail in ballots. The law should be changed.
Move along, nothing to see here!
And even if a vote was discovered to be fraudulent after it was counted it will still count because there is no way to discern who’s is who’s.
We are watching the SOS like a hawk!
Every move she makes regarding elections.
Well thank you for making the case for the integrity of our voting system. Sorry…just not convincing. The story isn’t compelling and you and your legislative crew have no credibility. You’ve lost us.
There is no question that this should have never happened in the state of Vermont and opened the door to voter fraud however we can’t just point the finger at 1 person….
Our illustrious governor seems to always have his finger in things that are not helpful to Vermonters or to the republican party….
I asked Google if Phil was involved and this is the answer I got
Yes, Governor Phil Scott signed legislation in 2021 that made universal mail-in balloting a permanent feature for all general elections in Vermont.
The problems in Vermont run deep and on both sides of the aisle… I truly wonder if Vermonters are ever going to wake up and make change here.
Who is us?