Legislation

If Scott vetoes climate change bill, what then?

Roll call margins too close to call in House, Senate

By Guy Page

Last Friday, S.5, the carbon credit/carbon tax bill, passed the House. What happens next is predictable. What happens after that is predictable, too. What happens then is a toss-up, and will decide whether S.5 becomes law or just the latest in a string of failed forced carbon emissions reduction bills. 

Stop One: the Vermont Senate, where members will almost certainly agree to minor revisions made by the House. 

Stop Two: Governor Phil Scott’s desk, where a veto is almost certain. 

Over the weekend, Scott telegraphed this in a press release: “Proponents of the bill have argued nothing will move forward without future legislative approval. They also say ‘this is essentially a study.’ Both of these statements are misleading.” Unless the Senate first responds with an overhaul that would have to return to a glowering House, a veto is likely. 

Stop Three: an attempted veto override in the House and Senate. Needing 100 votes, House Speaker Jill Krowinski and her lieutenants suffered an embarrassing, one-vote defeat in their effort to override the Clean Heat Standard, a bill similar to S.5 in its ploy to replace fossil fuels with electricity as Vermont’s primary heating source. It happened because they failed to nail down enough face-to-face commitments from rank-and-filers to override the governor’s veto. A retiring centrist Democrat, Tom Bock of Chester, shocked the leadership by voting with the governor. 

This epic fail reminded many State House insiders of previous Speaker Mitzi Johnson’s failure to secure enough votes for a proposed increase in the heating fuel tax. In both cases, fatal assumptions were made. It is highly likely that such assumptions will not be repeated in the coming veto override effort. 

An override requires a ⅔ majority of the Legislature: 100 votes in the House, and 20 in the Senate. Both supporters and opponents of S.5 can find reasons for optimism in the House and Senate roll calls. 

In the decisive Second Reading, the House voted 98-46 – two votes shy of 100, with six lawmakers not voting. In the Senate, S.5 passed 19-10 on Second Reading and 18-10 on the final and Third Reading. 

Those totals make the prediction of a veto override too close to call.

Optimistic supporters of S.5 hope party loyalty will drive majority party members to keep in step, especially because the veto is by a governor of a rival party. They also take comfort in the pickup of a half-dozen seats by the super-majority in 2022. 

Optimistic opponents of S.5 hope vocal citizen opposition will persuade lawmakers’ to endure leadership’s arm-twisting appeals to loyalty. 

Today and in days to come, VDC will publish informed arguments pro and con to S.5. Citizens may contact lawmakers by calling the State House at 802-828-2228 or by emailing them on their official legislative email addresses, as published in the VDC Vermont Legislature Directory:

House of Representatives

MemberDistrictTown(s)/cityPartyCommitteeDistrict
Representative Julia AndrewsChittenden-25Milton, WestfordDemocratWays and Meansjandrews@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Joseph AndrianoAddison-RutlandShoreham, Orwell etc.DemocratHealth Carejandriano@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Peter AnthonyWashington-3Barre CityDemocratWays and Meanspanthony@leg.state.vt.us
Representative John ArrisonWindsor-2WeathersfieldDemocratCorrections and Institutionsjarrison@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Angela ArsenaultChittenden-2WillistonDemocratJudiciaryaarsenault@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Sarah “Sarita” AustinChittenden-19ColchesterDemocratEducationsaustin@leg.state.vt.us
Representative John L. BartholomewWindsor-1Hartland/W. WindsorDemocratTransportationjbartholomew@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Ashley BartleyFranklin-1Georgia/ FairfaxRepublicanGeneral and Housingabartley@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Scott BeckCaledonia-EssexSt. Johnsbury/KirbyRepublicanWays and Meanssbeck@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Daisy BerbecoChittenden-21WinooskiDemocratHealth Caredberbeco@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Matthew BirongAddison-3Vergennes, et al.DemocratGov Operations and Military Affairsmbirong@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Alyssa BlackChittenden-24EssexDemocratHealth Careablack@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Tiffany BluemleChittenden-13BurlingtonDemocratAppropriationstbluemle@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Seth BongartzBennington-4ManchesterDemocratEnvironment and Energysbongartz@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Michelle Bos-LunWindham-3WestminsterDemocratCorrections and Institutionsmboslun@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Lucy BoydenLamoille-3CambridgeDemocratGov Operations and Military Affairslboyden@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Erin BradyChittenden-2WillistonDemocratEducationebrady@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Carolyn BranaganFranklin-1Georgia/ FairfaxRepublicanWays and Meanscbranagan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Patrick BrennanChittenden-19ColchesterRepublicanAppropriationspbrennan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jana BrownChittenden-1RichmondDemocratEducationjbrown@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Nelson BrownellBennington-1PownalDemocratEducationnbrownell@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jessica BrumstedChittenden-7ShelburneDemocratHuman Servicesjbrumsted@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Thomas BurdittRutland-2RutlandRepublicanJudiciarytburditt@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mollie S. BurkeWindham-8BrattleboroProg/DemTransportationmburke@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Elizabeth BurrowsWindsor-1West WindsorDem/ProgGeneral and Housingeburrows@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Tesha BussWindsor-5WoodstockDemocratEducationtbuss@leg.state.vt.us
Representative R. Scott CampbellCaledonia-EssexSt. JohnsburyDemocratTransportationscampbell@leg.state.vt.us
Representative William CanfieldRutland-10Fair HavenRepublicanWays and Meanswcanfield@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jim CarrollBennington-5Bennington/ PownalDemocratCommerce and Economic Dev.jcarroll@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Conor CaseyWashington-4MontpelierDemocratCorrections and Institutionsccasey@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Ela ChapinWashington-5E. MontpelierDemocratJudiciaryechapin@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Heather ChaseWindsor-WindhamChesterDemocratCommerce and Economic Dev.hchase@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Seth ChaseChittenden-20ColchesterDemocratGov Operations and Military Affairsschase@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Robin Chesnut-TangermanRutland-BenningtonPawlet/ WellsDemocratGeneral and Housingrchesnut-tangerman@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kevin “Coach” ChristieWindsor-6HartfordDemocratJudiciarykchristie@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Brian CinaChittenden-15BurlingtonProg/DemHealth Carebcina@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Paul CliffordRutland-4RutlandRepublicanEnvironment and Energypclifford@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Sara CoffeyWindham-1GuilfordDemocratTransportationscoffey@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Esme ColeWindsor-6HartfordDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryecole@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Peter ConlonAddison-2CornwallDemocratEducationpconlon@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Timothy R. Corcoran IIBennington-2BenningtonDemocratTransportationtcorcoran@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mari CordesAddison-4LincolnDemocratHealth Caremcordes@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Penny DemarFranklin-7EnosburgRepublicanHealth Careademar@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Carl DemrowOrange-1Corinth, et al.DemocratWays and Meanscdemrow@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Eileen DickinsonFranklin-2St. Albans TownRepublicanAppropriationsedickinson@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Leonora DodgeChittenden-23EssexDemocratTransportationldodge@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Karen DolanChittenden-22EssexDemocratJudiciarykndolan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Katherine “Kari” DolanWashington-2WaitsfieldDemocratAppropriationskdolan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Anne B. DonahueWashington-1NorthfieldRepublicanHuman Servicesadonahue@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kate DonnallyLamoille-2Hyde Park, et al.
Democrat
Judiciarykdonnally@leg.state.vt.us
Representative David DurfeeBennington-3ShaftsburyDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryddurfee@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Caleb ElderAddison-4StarksboroDemocratGeneral and Housingcelder@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Alice M. EmmonsWindsor-3SpringfieldDemocratCorrections and Institutionsaemmons@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Bobby Farlice-RubioCaledonia-1Barnet/ WaterfordDemocratHealth Carebfarlice-rubio@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Gina GalfettiWashington-OrangeBarre/ WilliamstownRepublicanCorrections and Institutionsggalfetti@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Rey GarofanoChittenden-23EssexDemocratHuman Servicesrgarofano@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Leslie GoldmanWindham-3RockinghamDemocratHealth Carelgoldman@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kenneth GoslantWashington-1NorthfieldRepublicanJudiciarykgoslant@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Rodney GrahamOrange-3WilliamstownRepublicanAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryrgraham@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Edye GraningChittenden-3Jericho/ UnderhillDemocratCommerce and Economic Dev.egraning@leg.state.vt.us
Representative James GregoireFranklin-6FairfieldRepublicanHuman Servicesjgregoire@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Lisa HangoFranklin-5BerkshireRepublicanGov Operations, Military AffairsLHango@leg.state.vt.us
Representative James HarrisonRutland-11ChittendenRepublicanAppropriationsjharrison@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Troy HeadrickChittenden-15BurlingtonProg/DemCorrections and Institutionstheadrick@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mark HigleyOrleans-LamoilleLowellRepublicanGov Operations, Military Affairsmhigley@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Rebecca HolcombeWindsor-Orange-2Norwich, et al.DemocratAppropriationsrholcombe@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Philip Jay HooperOrange-Washington-AddisonBerlinDemocratGov Operations, Military AffairsJHooper@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Robert HooperChittenden-18BurlingtonDemocratGov Operations, Military Affairsrhooper@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Lori HoughtonChittenden-22Essex Jct.DemocratHealth CareLHoughton@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mary E. HowardRutland-6RutlandDemocratGeneral and HousingMHoward@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Noah HymanChittenden-8S. Burlington/ WillistonDemocratHuman Servicesnhyman@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kathleen JamesBennington-4Manchester CenterDemocratGeneral and Housingkjames@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Stephanie JeromeRutland-9BrandonDemocratCommerce and Economic Dev.sjerome@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Emilie KornheiserWindham-7BrattleboroDemocratWays and Meansekornheiser@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Emilie KrasnowChittenden-9S. BurlingtonDemocratGeneral and Housingekrasnow@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jill KrowinskiChittenden-16BurlingtonDemocratRulesjkrowinski@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Larry LaborEssex-OrleansMorganRepublicanGeneral and Housingllabor@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Dennis LaBountyCaledonia-3Lyndon, et al.DemocratGeneral and Housingdlabounty@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kate LalleyChittenden-6ShelburneDemocratTransportationklalley@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Martin LaLondeChittenden-12S. BurlingtonDemocratJudiciarymlalonde@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Saudia LaMontLamoille-WashingtonStowe/ MorristownDemocratGeneral and HousingSLamont@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Diane LanpherAddison-3VergennesDemocratAppropriationsdlanpher@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Wayne LarocheFranklin-5FranklinRepublicanCorrections and Institutionswlaroche@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Josie LeavittGrand Isle-ChittendenGrand IsleDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryjleavitt@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jed LipskyLamoille-1StoweIndependentAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryjlipsky@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kate LoganChittenden-16BurlingtonProg/DemEnvironment and Energyklogan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Emily LongWindham-5NewfaneDemocratRuleselong@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Eric MaguireRutland-5Rutland CityRepublicanCorrections and Institutionsemaguire@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Michael MarcotteOrleans-LamoilleCoventryRepublicanCommerce and Economic Dev.mmarcotte@leg.state.vt.us
Representative James MaslandWindsor-Orange-2ThetfordDemocratWays and Meansjmasland@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Christopher MattosChittenden-FranklinMiltonRepublicanWays and Meanscmattos@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kate McCannWashington-4MontpelierDemocratEducationkmccann@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Michael McCarthyFranklin-3St. AlbansDemocratGov Operations, Military Affairsmmccarthy@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Patricia McCoyRutland-1PultneyRepublicanTransportationpmccoy@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Francis McFaunWashington-OrangeBarre TownRepublicanHealth Carefmcfaun@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jubilee McGillAddison-5Middlebury, et al.DemocratHuman Servicesjmcgill@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Marc MihalyWashington-6Calais/ MarshfieldDemocratAppropriationsmmihaly@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Brian MinierChittenden-11S. BurlingtonDemocratEducationbminier@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Michael MorganGrand Isle-ChittendenW. MiltonRepublicanGov Operations, Military Affairsmmorgan@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kristi MorrisWindsor-3SpringfieldDemocratEnvironment and Energykmorris2@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mary A. MorrisseyBennington-5BenningtonRepublicanCorrections and Institutionsmmorrissey@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Michael MrowickiWindham-4PutneyDemocratGov Operations, Military Affairsmmrowicki@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Emma Mulvaney-StanakChittenden-17BurlingtonProg/DemCommerce, Economic Devemulvaneystanak@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Logan NicollRutland-WindsorLudlowDemocratCommerce and Economic Devlnicoll@leg.state.vt.us
Representative William NotteRutland-7Rutland CityDemocratJudiciarywnotte@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Daniel NoyesLamoille-2WolcottDemocratHuman ServicesDNoyes@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kate NugentChittenden-10S. BurlingtonDemocratGov Operations, Military Affairsknugent@leg.state.vt.us
Representative John O’BrienWindsor-Orange-1TunbridgeDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryjobrien@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Carol OdeChittenden-18BurlingtonDemocratWays and MeansCOde@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Thomas OliverFranklin-4Swanton/ SheldonRepub/DemJudiciarytoliver@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Woodman PageOrleans-2NewportRepublicanAppropriationswpage@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kelly PajalaWindham-Windsor-BenningtonLondonderry, et al.IndependentHuman Serviceskpajala@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Joseph ParsonsOrange-CaledoniaNewburyRepublicanGeneral and Housingjparsons@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Avram PattLamoille-WashingtonStowe/ MorristownDemocratEnivironment and Energyapatt@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Henry PearlCaledonia-WashingtonDanvilleDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryhpearl@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Arthur PetersonRutland-2ClarendonRepublicanHuman Servicesapeterson@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Phil PouechChittenden-4HinesburgDemocratTransportationppouech@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Monique PriestleyOrange-2Bradford, et al.DemocratCommerce and Economic Devmpriestley@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Barbara RachelsonChittenden-14BurlingtonDemocratJudiciarybrachelson@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mike RiceBennington-RutlandDorset, et al.DemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestrymrice@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Tristan RobertsWindham-6Wilmington, et al.DemocratCorrections and Institutionstroberts@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jarrod SammisRutland-3CastletonRepublicanCommerce and Economic Devjsammis@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Larry SatcowitzOrange-Washington-AddisonRandolphDemocratEnvironment and Energylsatcowitz@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Robin ScheuAddison-1MiddleburyDemocratAppropriationsRScheu@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Charles “Butch” ShawRutland-8PittsfordRepublicanTransportationbshaw@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Amy SheldonAddison-1MiddleburyDemocratEnvironment and Energyasheldon@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Laura SibiliaWindham-2DoverIndependentEnvironment and Energylsibilia@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Katherine SimsOrleans-4CraftsburyDemocratWays and Meansksims@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Taylor SmallChittenden-21WinooskiProg/DemHuman Servicestsmall@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Brian SmithOrleans-1DerbyRepublicanEnvironment and EnergyBSmith@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Trevor SquirrellChittenden-3UnderhillDemocratAppropriationsTSquirrell@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Gabrielle StebbinsChittenden-13BurlingtonDemocratEnvironment and Energygstebbins@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Thomas StevensWashington-ChittendenWaterburyDemocratGeneral and Housingtstevens@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Mary-Katherine StoneChittenden-14BurlingtonDem/ProgEducationmstone@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Heather SurprenantWindsor-4BarnardProg/DemAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestryhsurprenant@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Chris TaylorChittenden-FranklinMiltonRepublicanEducationcataylor@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Curt TaylorChittenden-20ColchesterDemocratWays and MeansCTaylor@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Dave TemplemanOrleans-3BrowningtonDemocratAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestrydtempleman@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Tristan TolenoWindham-9BrattleboroDemocratAppropriationsttoleno@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Casey ToofFranklin-8St. Albans TownRepublicanEducation/ Rulesctoof@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Dara TorreWashington-2WaitsfieldDemocratEnvironment and Energydtorre@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Joseph “Chip” TroianoCaledonia-2StannardDemocratCorrections and Institutionsctroiano@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Matt WalkerFranklin-4SwantonRepublicanTransportationmwalker@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Chea Waters EvansChittenden-5Hinesburg/ CharlotteDemocratGov Operations, Military Affairscevans@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Kirk WhiteWindsor-AddisonBethelDem/ProgCommerce and Economic Devkwhite@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Dane WhitmanBennington-2BenningtonDemocratHuman Servicesdwhitman@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Jonathan WilliamsWashington-3BarreDemocratCommerce and Economic Devjwilliams@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Terri Lynn WilliamsEssex-CaledoniaGranbyRepublicanEducationtwilliams@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Charles WilsonCaledonia-3Lyndon, et al.RepublicanAgriculture, Food Resiliency, Forestrycwilson@leg.state.vt.us
Representative Theresa WoodWashington-ChittendenWaterburyDemocratHuman Servicestwood@leg.state.vt.us
Senate
Senator Philip BaruthChittenden-CentralBurlingtonDem/ProgAppropriations/ Judiciary/ Rulespbaruth@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Christopher BrayAddison DistrictNew HavenDemocratFinance/ Natural Resources and Energycbray@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Randy BrockFranklinSt. AlbansRepublicanEconomic Dev., Housing and General Affairs/ Finance/ Rulesrbrock@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Brian CampionBenningtonBenningtonDemocratAgriculture/ Educationbcampion@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Thomas ChittendenChittenden-SoutheastS. BurlingtonDemocratFinance/ Transportationtchittenden@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Alison ClarksonWindsorWoodstockDemocratEconomic Dev., Housing and General Affairs/ Rules/ Gov. OperationsAClarkson@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Brian CollamoreRutlandRutlandRepublicanAgriculture/ Institutionsbcollamore@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Ann CummingsWashingtonMontpelierDemocratEconomic Dev., Housing and General Affairs/ Financeacummings@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Martine GulickChittenden-CentralBurlingtonDemocratEducation/ Health and Welfaremgulick@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Ruth HardyAddisonEast MiddleburyDemocratGov. Operations/ Health and Welfarerhardy@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Wendy HarrisonWindhamBrattleboroDemocratEconomic Dev., Housing and General Affairs/ Institutionswharrison@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Nader HashimWindhamDummerstonDemocratEducation/ Judiciarynhashim@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Russ IngallsEssexNewportRepublicanInstitutions/ Transportationringalls@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Jane KitchelCaledoniaDanvilleDemocratAppropriations/ Transportationjkitchel@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Virginia “Ginny” LyonsChittenden-SoutheastWillistonDemocratAppropriations/ Health and Welfarevlyons@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Mark A. MacDonaldOrangeWilliamstownDemocratFinance/ Natural Resources and Energymmacdonald@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Dick MazzaGrand IsleColchesterDemocratInstitutions/ Transportation/ Rulesdmazza@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Dick McCormackWindsorBethelDemocratFinance/ Natural Resources and Energyrmccormack@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Robert NorrisFranklinSheldonRepublicanGov. Operations/ Judiciaryrnorris@leg.state.vt.us
Senator andrew PerchlikWashingtonMontpelierDemProgAppropriations/ Transportation/ Rulesaperchlik@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Kesha Ram HinsdaleChittenden-SoutheastBurlingtonDemocratEconomic Dev, Housing and General Affairs/ Financekramhinsdale@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Dick Sears Jr.BenningtonN. BenningtonDemocratAppropriations/ Judiciaryrsears@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Robert StarrOrleansN. TroyDemocratAgriculture/ Appropriationsrstarr@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Tanya VyhovskyChittenden-CentralEssexProg/DemGovernment Operations/ Judiciarytvyhovsky@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Anne WatsonWashingtonMontpelierDem/ProgGov. Operations/ Natural Resources and Energyawatson@leg.state.vt.us
Senator David WeeksRutlandProctorRepublicanEducation/ Health and Welfaredweeks@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Richard WestmanLamoilleCambridgeRepublicanAgriculture/ Appropriationsrwestman@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Rebecca WhiteWindsorHartfordDemocratGov. Operations/ Natural Resources and Energyrwhite@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Terry WilliamsRutlandPoultneyRepublicanEducation/ Health and Welfaretwilliams@leg.state.vt.us
Senator Irene WrennerChittenden-NorthEssexDemocratAgriculture/ Institutions

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8 replies »

  1. as long as Vermont decreases carbon footprint we needn’t worry about China or India flaunting the rules, and we wonder why Vermont’s population is decreasing

  2. As a friend in Europe recently said to me, “Welcome to my life.” He pointed out that S.5 makes no sense in a rural area; hardly anyone lives here, and what little fumes there are just dissipate. But this has nothing to do with carbon; it’s the “Marthasvinyardization” of rural Vermont, removing one group in favor of another group, most particularly in the Northeast Kingdom. This happened in my hometown back in Massachusetts, as the “Swamp Yankees” were forced out by rising home prices. Up here, it’s a liberal’s dream to fill the Northeast Kingdom with rich Democratic voters and donors, which may sound fairly mild, but what’s about to happen actually fits the United Nation’s definition of genocide. Note that genocide may take place “in a peaceful situation.”

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

    Article II

    “In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
    a. Killing members of the group;
    b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    Elements of the crime

    The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.

    The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
    1. A mental element: the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such”; and
    2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
    o Killing members of the group
    o Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
    o Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
    o Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
    o Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
    The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.”

    So, let’s see which Vermont legislators are willing to vote for genocide. Of course, they will never admit to an official “State or organizational plan or policy” when they believe that “saving the world” provides adequate cover for their nefarious plans.

  3. The contempt that the majority holds for the citizens they are supposed to represent is mind boggling. Erasing our surviving middle class in favor of a huge, poor, dependent class led by a thin crust of wealthy “elites” appears to be their goal. Are there no sane Democrats left in the state?

  4. Somebody somewhere, probably has a betting line on S.5.
    The hubris and dollars combined on this bill should make the override vote a
    mere exercise for the elitists.
    The many articles, commentaries and comments on VDC and True North bear out one thing: That Climate continues to be profitable- and actually doing something to change the climate isn’t the point. Money and Power are the only goals on this one.

  5. Sadly, too many useful idiots keep electing these marxists. The fact that these petty tyrants have now wasted TWO legislative sessions on this absolutely useless pipe dream is DISGUSTING! I bumped into Lt Gov Zuckerman last year when he was campaigning, I told him what I wanted from the legislature, was to stop spending money and stop writing new laws. His response was “what do you want to stop spending on schools or roads?” (total diversionary cop-out). I feel like schools would a good place to start, because spending on roads stopped a long time ago. Pennsylvania used to to some of the worst roads I’d seen, VT has them beat now.

  6. The Legislature would not be so obsessed to ram this through if there was not a big payday for them – above and beyond the wage and benefit package they awarded themselves with – the Golden Dome gravy train runneth at top speed. By the end of the session, they will be high-fiving and buying round after round celebrating their great deception and thievery of 2023.

    • That’s more than likely. It occurred to me as well that the rushed-through pay raise may be intended as cover for lifestyle changes and large purchases. A friend who is no longer in the state legislature — which she characterized as “evil” — told me that the MoneySoros has bitten deep into that body. If this is true, they learned from the best: a man who was Judas to his own people.

  7. One reason for suspected global warming is the
    constant HOT AIR comming from Legislature .

    Cool down these deviant lminds, and the planet takes care of
    Vermont and and the USA