The fractious state of the Vermont GOP
by Aaron Warner
Saturday afternoon at “the Aud” in Barre I attended the Republican Party of Vermont’s committee meeting. My reasons for attending were twofold, namely to get a sense of the party (I am a lifelong Independent) and listen to their pitch to me as a potential candidate for the Senate or House from my progressive stronghold in Windsor County.
I rode to the event with my long-time friend Joe Trottier who is also looking to run as a Republican for the state house now that perpetual incumbent Kevin “Coach” Christie appears to be stepping down due to health concerns. Christie, a Democrat, is one of the most likable human beings you will ever meet whether you agree with his politics or not. Joe can be described similarly although his personality is a bit more quixotic compared to Christie’s blue collar statesmanship.
Entering the conference room the bustling sound of old friends and lively hopefuls filled the air. Big names of the Vermont GOP, aside from Phil Scott, all seemed to be in attendance. Paul Dame, Gerald Malloy, Scott Milne and others who have spent their years grinding away at the political wheel worked the room deftly as any Vermont Republican might; politely and with a smile and savvy unique to Green Mountaineers. As a flatlander from the west coast I stood out like a sore thumb for my lack of plaid shirt, Carhart pants and sensible winter boots.
A brief conversation with Mr. Dame reassured me he at least understands his role as a political leader. Strong eye contact and sharp listening skills are accompanied by political insight into strategy and need. After an inviting invocation to the Lord asking for His blessing on the day’s event, followed by a hearty pledge of allegiance, Dame gave the VT GOP equivalent of a state of the union address couched as a motivational speech.
His overriding message? If we don’t establish some party unity the progressives are going to continue to eat our lunch and tell us we have to pay for it. Neither the prayer nor his plea would win the day.
After a run through the respective county roll call, where individual names were confirmed for member representatives to vote on the meeting’s issues, the procedure made it alphabetically all the way to the last county, mine, Windsor – when the fireworks began. Upon calling the name John McGovern as chair of Windsor County an “objection” was raised followed by a series of back and forth “points of order” and “appeals” until a man from Windsor County stood up and read a letter describing the nature of the objection.
Trying hard to follow the technical language which invoked “Robert’s rules” and other party statutes it was clear the Windsor Committee was in disarray. It seemed the committee had swollen thanks to new membership and many of them had grown disenchanted with Mr. McGovern for what they described as “dereliction of duty”.
It was implied the committee’s attempt to force McGovern to resign was wrongfully nullified thanks in part to both McGovern’s unwillingness to recognize their authority and the state GOP inconveniently scheduling a meeting for the same day as theirs.
The next twenty or so minutes saw “point of order” after “point of order” and “appeal” after “appeal” until McGovern was asked to explain his side in the matter. An older man with a gaunt and wizened Ivy League presentation began his defense by reminiscing his grandfather’s wisdom “never to get into a pissing contest with a skunk”. Amidst groans and protests he attempted to back track the comment, but the insult had been made.
A lengthy explanation of the vote to recognize McGovern as the chair and rightful voter passed, when a man at the back of the room launched into an expletive laced complaint where he slammed a chair into the wooden floor calling “b***s**t”, Dame “a Democrat”, and referred to “the uniparty” as the Windsor clan stood up and began to walk out. To Dame’s credit I thought he handled the entire ordeal with dignity and fairness.
Outside I overheard McGovern explain to another attendee that he didn’t want Trump on the ballot and to oppose Trump is “pro-Republican”. This struck me as odd given Trump’s overwhelming popularity with the national party and when I asked him about it McGovern became defensive and shortly used terms like “crazy” to dismiss the case for Trump or his supporters.
My next question to him was “do you think Joe Biden won the 2020 election” to which he asserted he absolutely did. I asked if he’d seen D’nesh D’souza’s “2,000 Mules”, he told me he went to Dartmouth with D’nesh, hadn’t seen the film and dismissed both as “crazy”.
Moments later another man from the meeting came out to McGovern’s case which shortly turned into his describing a friend who he trusts with his life but is “nuts” for believing 9/11 was an inside job before demonizing Alex Jones’ involvement with Sandy Hook. Neither point had anything to do with Trump or the coming election. It was an emotional appeal given he’d cried the day of the shooting and took the time to carve out the names of the children in a memorial he would personally take to Newtown, CT.
Surely the man’s gesture was sincere but it doesn’t warrant labeling those who question either story as “crazy”. There is enough public evidence of our government being weaponized against its citizens and media systematically lying about it to at least give credence to those who question the popular stories. In fact, that’s what the constitution these conservatives claim to want to conserve is built upon – the necessity of protecting dissenting voices. I can only imagine how many Brits and crown sympathizers referred to the revolutionaries as “crazy” to go up against the established colonial power.
Dismissing others as “crazy” and “nuts” has become the easiest way to avoid in-depth political conversations. No appeal to reason or additional facts and evidence can be mounted to take the dialogue further with people who use diagnostic terms to degrade or belittle people with differing opinions. What results is the Hatfield’s vs. McCoy’s effect which exists already between Republicans and Democrats, though now appears to be bifurcating the Republican party – never Trumpers vs. MAGA.
I went outside to ask the Windsor delegate for more clarification and they refused on the grounds they speak as a group, so I shared my contact info in hopes I will have the chance to understand the deeper nature of the rift.
As an outsider looking in to potentially supporting the Vermont GOP as a viable candidate I was left disappointed at their seeming inability to set aside what are ultimately petty differences when faced with the real political threat – the supermajority in Montpelier and establishment in D.C. These are the questions I hope they’ll consider:
How can you expect to win if you can’t even finish a simple meeting without devolving into chaos?
If Trump won in 2016 and he received a record 12 million more votes in 2020 why would you not back such a strong candidate?
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have the lowest approval ratings in history. Biden is demonstrably mentally unfit and Harris isn’t taken seriously as a candidate by her own party. Can you not see the Democrats have the weakest candidates in their history yet you’re letting them dictate to you about likely the strongest you’ve had in Trump?
Is it possible you have adopted the very talking points given by a media that ranks as the second least trusted institution in the country behind only congress (who championed the “insurrection” narrative)?
If more than one million Democrats left the party to become Republicans following the 2020 election what does that tell you?
If over half the country thinks the election was stolen, including some 30 percent of Democrats, why would you oppose the most popular Republican candidate?
From my vantage point the Republican Party has never been in a better position to take back ground in the state of Vermont. From the unpopularity of DEI and the climate agenda, the failing education system, the attack on families, parents and gender, the rising cost of gas and housing, and the soaring crime rate winning back seats in Congress should be easier to than getting an extra a mail in ballot.
The problem doesn’t appear to me a lack of unity but lack of courage to call out the actually crazy party – the one that calls mothers “birthing persons”, says women can have penises while not being able to define a woman, drag-queens should read to children, children should have sex organs removed, we should ban gas-stoves yet tolerate genocidal language regarding Jews, the people who ended slavery are inherently racist, ad nauseum – are the same ones saying Trump is the biggest threat to America – and you agree with them?
What say you Grand Ol’ Party?
The Lord from who you sought guidance says this: If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. (Galatians 5:15)
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Although you picked out the obvious elephant in the room, you’ve clearly confused who is the elephant and who is the hunter.
In Vermont there are many people who pretend to be Republicans whom are not. Phil Scott for instance, the apparatus in Chittenden county and as per your article potentially the Windsor county chair as well.
Your point that there may not be a better time for the Republican party to claim unity and take back Vermont is not wrong. The problem is the Republicans failed to clean house a long time ago (big tent party as Dame likes to call it) and instead have a bunch of Republicans and name only who hold power within the Republican party in Vermont.
Oh and I got a good chuckle out of:
“A brief conversation with Dame reassured me he at least understands his role as a political leader. Strong eye contact and sharp listening skills are accompanied by political insight into strategy and need.”
I suppose without the history and backstory I could have come to the same wrong conclusion as you have.
I am not someone to base my opinion off the opinions of others. Despite the claims about Dame I left the meeting not feeling the way many seem to want me to about him. He seems genuine, committed and willing to lead at a time most would likely have given up. The air of hyper-suspiciousness seems to be imbibed by everyone these days. Until I see otherwise he seems like a reasonable guy who wants to improve conservative discourse in Vermont, whether you like or agree with him or not. I certainly don’t envy him.
Some wade into waters and take things at face value.
Who voted for Biden? Who announced this to the world? Why?
If one looked under the hood, they would find no money, no local money at least, no support and 112,704 very disgruntled people.
One might find, if you don’t tow the party line, you will not be assisted.
An inquiring mind would ask, what is the party line? What actions do they act upon, as we are taught, watch what they do, not what they say.
Would they let a grass roots organization within grow and flourish?
One might inquire to those who wanted to label themselves agri-republicans. What say they?
Vermont is a small state.
112,704 people would be the largest single new party in history. Percentage wise it would be the largest political shift in the United States, could happen instantly. Vermont could be the first in something that’s not marxist but Republic orientated!
Our state, our country our families need unity and peace. Fighting over power and money is exactly the game plan they wish, because it’s the ground upon which they will win EVERY TIME.
They cannot win against love and peace. it is their ( the NWO achilles heal ) They win when you fight, so they aren’t going to stop fighting. They win when you are fighting with family, so they are going to pump you all with hatred. They win when the VTGOP can’t do ANYTHING. Could they make a VTGOP like Scott, of course, but you see they choose not to. They could kick out the MAGA group, but that would defeat their plans of division. They LOVE LOVE ! the infighting, that’s why it will continue.
Deep state loves Vermont politics, it’s their ideal situation, which is why both side don’t want change and won’t listen to the public in either party…….everybody knows the VDP publically hangs any internal opposition in thought or deed….just like the Romans did on the Appian way.
The spirit of Deception, Division and Destruction is upon our state well, we’d be wise to change course.
we need to know the ground upon which we play.
Aaron, it was a pleasure to speak with you in person for a few minutes before things got started, and I’m appreciative of your willingness to give your own impression after having a direct conversation with me, which many in the comments section never have. To turn things around we need more people involved like you who are willing to assume the best and work towards a common goal.
In King Solomon’s day, two women came fighting over a baby. See one of the women switched her dead baby for the other woman’s live baby. King Solomon says, easy, let’s cut the baby in half and I’ll give 1/2 to each woman. The real mother would do anything to save her child and offered to give the baby away. True love.
In Vermont’s case we aren’t even fighting for the right baby, we’re fighting over the dead baby and both sides are saying no, no no….don’t divide the baby. This dead baby we are fighting over is about power and money, nobody wants to give it up.
The baby worth spending time upon is our country and our people. Starting anew. Vermonters have for eons been live and let live, we’ve been open neighbors to those from outside, tolerant of their big city ideas, it doesn’t seem to be reciprocal.
So, are we willing to nourish the real baby, our Republic? Our neighbors? The VTGOP has nothing to do with our Republic. The republic is the baby that’s alive. Love for our neighbors is the better spirit to feed.
Are we going to bring unity to our state? Are we going to bring self-governance or continue running as an arm of the lobbyists, corporatocracies, for the pimps of the NWO?
Are we going to continue fighting over this dead baby called the VTGOP? Or should we nourish our baby Republic that is on life support. Are we going to fight over the dead baby or feed this baby on life support?
Vermont can’t change until we change our personal actions and deeds.
Your last paragraph sums it up. How can the average American think Biden has done a good job?? Each should be asked to list three things Biden has done to benefit the average American. I can’t think of one. The border is horifying- why can’t people see what is happening?? Thank you for your article. I shall quote the last paragraph to anyone I know that thinks Biden has benefited the average working person.
“why can’t people see what is happening??”
Believe it or not, a very large number of people actually believe everything they hear in the mainstream media. CNN, MSNBC, NPR etc. have devolved into NWO propaganda, but most people simply haven’t realized it (yet.)
the uniparty paid $1800 for each single vote in Iowa…….
If they can get artificial intelligence going, a fancy word for computer controlled propaganda…..they are going to make it near impossible to get information on the internet….we’ll only have propaganda, just the way they like it.
Wow, I think the Constitutional concept of separation of church and state would be a problem for this wacko ‘candidate’ for office.
Thank you for running quickly to prove my point.
The Constitutional concept was to protect the church and individuals from a state religion oppressing their freedom of worship or religion (1st Amendment). The “separation of church and state” phrase is not in the Constitution but in a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Church assuring them the federal government would protect their liberties in face of persecution by the then state religious faction from the Congregationalists.
If you believe this meant to keep Christians from participating in government you likely want to supplement your reading. The founders routinely prayed to “the God of the Bible” as they drafted the documents. The federal government also issued Bibles to schools into the late 1800s as required reading. The first colleges and universities in the US, now known as the Ivy League, were all Christian seminaries intended to educate all citizens in the Bible including the Native Americans. Go have a look at their school mottos.
The federal government still employs a chaplain, they still pray weekly, and the laws of this land were all formed from Biblical laws. Thus it was never implied the church should not participate in the state but merely no specific denomination or creed would be used to govern the citizenry. England being the example, they rejected the Anglican monarchical rule over their diverse Christian styles of worship and wanted to be free to practice as they saw fit, hence the Constitution emphasis on freedom and limited government.
Sincerely,
The ‘Wacko’
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that everyone in the United States has “the right to practice his or her own religion, or no religion at all.” Your diatribe about the history of the role of religion in our government underscores my point that religious Christian fanatics have been pushing their beliefs on people of other faiths and of no faith since the beginning. That doesn’t make it right.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Where does it say that?
The founders, many deists, many Christians, some agnostics, could see the principles of Christian law and order and the freedom spoken of “to those in Christ” is a freedom to be enjoyed by everyone. Unlike other religions, such as Islam, which violently and forcibly creates a two-class system, Christianity sees ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, by virtue of their being made in God’s image and likeness. However it also uniquely regarded the fallen state of man, unlike Marxists, thus instituted numerous divisions of power in the form of checks and balances. Which is what makes America great – it offers the most freedom and the most safety from tyranny. If we can keep it as Franklin said.
Diatribes are usually bitter – I am not. I am merely rebutting your erroneous statements.
The VT GOP – ‘The Lord of The Flies’.
If I could give you a participation trophy for proving my point I would.
Paul Dame – ‘Lord of the Flies’.
Ditto.
Ad hominem attacks: strategy to use to silence those that want honest debate, dialogue, and discussion. Those who engage in this strategy seem to be either ill equipped to debate due to lack of understanding, are too ensconced in the dogma surrounding a particular issue or subject, or do not have a full understanding of the right of free speech. This strategy seems to be most fully deployed when there is fear of losing a position, or popularity or fitting in -going along to get along, or often losing financial support from the vested interests promulgating the particular dogma.
“In order to rise from its own ashes, a phoenix first must burn.”
― Octavia Butler, Parable of the Talents
I think we’ve lost the necessary ability to disagree without being disagreeable.
I blame Climate Change.
🙂
I think, then, Mr. Warner, that it’s time for you to come in out of the sun. 🙂
Thanks for the great reporting and analysis and good luck with your campaign if you decide to become an independent member of the legislature.
Thank you, and thank you for the reasonableness of your commentary. It’s refreshing.
“Dismissing others as “crazy” and “nuts” has become the easiest way to avoid in-depth political conversations. No appeal to reason or additional facts and evidence can be mounted to take the dialogue further with people who use diagnostic terms to degrade or belittle people with differing opinions. What results is the Hatfield’s vs. McCoy’s effect which exists already between Republicans and Democrats, though now appears to be bifurcating the Republican party – never Trumpers vs. MAGA. ”
This seems to be the brunt of the comments by SOME people and their expertise on this papers comment sections.
I run into this type of argument with SOME people here. So Called failed experts who snipe at you and this paper who censors people who level valid arguments are their “favorite” people even if they are demonstrably wrong in their myopic thinking about schools and choice, not seeing the light thru the trees that there is no choice here in Vermont for education. Much like this article which shows how bad off Vermont Republicans are because the ROOT of the VTGOP is suffering from ROT. The ignorance is almost astounding and defiantly breathtaking.
We need to get rid of all these “experts” that seem to actually know much of nothing.
To Brian; Yes, I agree the reporter was “fooled” by Dame and it started when he said “leader”. He is no leader he is a shill for the VT DEM / Prog Party plain and simple. His actions say that much. He much like SOME people, think they know, but in fact are showing their contempt for We The People. I had a friend attend, I was not asked because I just would have very strongly confronted Dame to his face, like inches, because he is after all a coward.
BTW all the stuff Alex Jones says and has said was right!
As I have asked in other articles plus:
When will you stop this?
When have you had enough?
When will you stop following THEIR way that locks you into inaction and no results, because they sabotage any efforts to find and utilize new blood or new ideas.
What is the VTGOP hiding that they want no one new?
When have you had enough? Yes it bares repeating.
Maybe we don’t need to “get rid of the experts” but rather become an expert who knows what the others don’t? It may be the effort to get there is greater than you want but also may be worth the trying.
Experts are a dime a dozen. How about just knowledge? I, having been disable, not my mind, READ. Constantly. There was a time experts were indeed very rare and most people had knowledge to do what was necessary to live and prosper, because they did everything to learn , including new ways of doing things. Having discussions about any subject that degrades to what amounts to name calling is beyond non-productive and are being flung by those “experts ” using basic Communist/ Marxist (oops I repeat myself) tactics designed to do nothing but destroy dissent.
I am no expert, as I will say also, using an old adage; to learn we first have to admit we know nothing. I think that was Socrates. So I claim no expertise because much like a runner there is always going to be someone faster.
Mr. McLamb, I very much enjoy reading your comments. All of them. You present as an impassioned person who cares about his community, state and country. In my mind, that is all good. And most of the time, I heartily concur with your main points. I would like to share some constructive feedback. You take away from your strength by lambasting other’s that don’t think the way you think they should. You accuse others of sniping but you are also engaging in this same method. I get it. When one is passionate about something and feels either no one is listening or one is losing what they are passionate about, one tends to start getting passive aggressive. Then aggressive. This is not criticism and is not meant to put your back up. However I feel it will.
Always look to common ground. Always build bridges. Speak your truth but don’t burn the ferry. (I know, mixed metaphor)
I also know it gets very disheartening when no one will step up to the plate in the manner you would like. I feel the same way. Where are my conservative neighbors when voting season is in earnest? They are going about their days hoping not to get accosted and would never think to stand up and stand out with their convictions. But I can encourage and support those to do that and also encourage and support the ones that actually do those actions. And I can try to be a guiding light. Well, maybe a candle in the darkness is a better metaphor. But when you berate others however shaded it may be, it spills out onto the rest of your words. Please don’t stop commenting. Please tell us what’s in your mind and heart. And find the common ground. Because, DIVIDED We Fall. And then they win.
Respectfully,
Pam Baker
Having just written to VDC a couple days ago about the absolute betrayal and failings of the VTGOP to represent conservative, pro life, constitutional Vermonters, I am pleased once more for the opportunity to share the proof of who Paul Dame, Tom Koch, Jay Shepard and other members of the VTGOP actually are.
As already pointed out by other commentators, Dame is a political leader, and the marxists are the glad to have him on their side.
Dame has no use for the VTGOP Platform, he gushes with pride bragging about how Scott is the most popular Governor in America. Scott received between 60 – 70% of the marxists votes in each of his Gubernatorial runs.
The ” Big Tent ” that Dame and Koch created gave them Liam Madden. You remember, the one who proclaimed ” I am not a Republican and aren’t you glad one won’t be running for congress. ”
The ” Big Tent ” is filled with transrepublicans. From Scott, remember You Aren’t Essential, but planned parenthood, VT liquor stores, every Government employee and Public School teacher, and the major franchises all were while small businesses were shut down and you couldn’t work.
Dame is protecting the 24 transrepublican State Representatives that voted for H89.
Bartley, Beck, Brennan, Burditt, Canfield, Clifford, Demar, Galfetti, Goslant, Harrison, Laroche, Maguire, Marcotte, Mattos, McCoy, McFaun, Morgan, Morrissey, *Sammis, Shaw, Taylor, Walker, Toof and Williams. ( Sammis has since turned Libertarian )
The people of Windsor County are showing the way for Vermont Conservatives. Standing up for what they believe in instead of falling for the lies. Calling out McGovern and his supporters for the complete betrayal of Conservative values while supporting the Marxists.
( But just like Scott and Dame, he’s doing it for the good of the Country)
Waiting breathlessly for the attacks from Dame’s defenders. Especially the ones who blame me for sharing the truth while never addressing any of the facts I share.
The destruction of the Republican Party of VT.
Brought to you by the VTGOP.
Fair enough. I agree cultural Marxism in Vermont has moved the GOP leftward, but the insanity to which we’ve headed can no longer be ignored by reasonable people.
If Dame, Scott and the others you mentioned can look you in the eye and say the Vermont political winds that brought gender affirming care, sex education to third graders, irreversible sex changes to adolescents and minors, states rights over parental rights, open and affirming border invasions, legalizing prostitution, anti-American DEI committees, et cetera can power us to a better future then Vermonters need to seize the wheel and turn the ship. Which means, get involved, have the conversations, win the popular support and turn the tide.
Getting facts, being reasonable and gathering like-minded people in your area to win seats is the only way forward so far as I can tell. I think it looks a lot like getting out of one’s comfort zone and doing the uncomfortable, which is to confront and persuade rather and hide and snipe. Nobody is voting for those who don’t step up.
To wit: Donald Trump just won Iowa in a land-slide. Reasonable people still hold the tired-of-being-silent majority.
Vermont is not Iowa. I went door-to-door around Colchester for 8 weeks straight (when it was Chittenden 9-2) in 2020 to well over 3,000 homes. Nothing could prepare me for the vitriol I heard from people of all stripes against Donald Trump. By far the most common question I was asked was “Are you voting for Trump?” Running as a Republican while also having to appeal to a large number of Independents and Democrats, there was no correct answer.
Aaron, do you need Scott and Dame to verbalize their complicity with the New World Order ?
Do I need to look into their eyes to see ? I have, and I call them out.
Scott has proven his agenda many times, it is geared only for him. Which way is the wind blowing ? That’s when he speaks.
He can’t define the word Woman. Perfect, that fits the agenda.
( never mind it destroys girls and women’s sports and puts every Female at risk from sexual deviants )
He supports the agenda to destroy babies in the Womb and sexually destroy the reproductive capability of every child that would be affected. ( it goes further, criminalizing every Parent and Health Care worker that would protect the child )
He supported illegal immigrants over Vermonters and Vermont children at risk from domestic abuse when he stole $2 Million from the program to protect the children and $3 million from the Tobacco settlement money to give to illegal aliens because they were not eligible for stimulus checks.
He violated Constitutional protections for every Vermont student when he rewarded School districts with high jab rates and denied monies to School districts where the Parents chose to protect their children.
He initiated the illegal and unconstitutional Law to restrict Magazines to 10 rounds.
How many more examples would you like ?
Dame and Koch have stood with every State Representative that voted for H89. Abortion to the moment of Birth and destroying the reproductive capability of Vermont children.
Dame and Shepard supported, campaigned for and funded Christina Nolan. Who supported abortion thru the 2nd Trimester, over 99% of all abortions in VT. and who vowed to fight to codify Roe V Wade if she had been elected.
The Pro Life and Constitutional candidate Gerald Malloy received no financial support or endorsement from the VTGOP thru the Primary.
I worked with Gerald from the beginning of his campaign all the way thru.
After Malloy defeated Nolan, Dame put out a Plea for donations to support Malloy. I called Dame out for that and he asked if we could work together. I explained that I would never work with him or those who refuse to adhere to the VTGOP Platform, on which I had worked on with fifteen or so others.
It was voted on and passed by members of the VTGOP.
FYI, Malloy never received One Cent from the VTGOP at any point thru the end of the General.
If your reference about hiding and sniping refers to me, I left the VTGOP because they stand for nothing. If you would like to review what I have done since that time I would be glad to inform you. Many hours and money out of my pocket to travel all over the State to fight the illegal and unconstitutional ” Mandates ” our Governor forced on VT students. Many miles and money out of my pocket and a great deal of time fighting for the unborn and children who have been abandoned by the VTGOP.
I am not hiding and sniping now and never have. ( ironic choice of words, Dame has used them as well )
The marxists in the legislature and our schools don’t hide who they are. They have chosen to side with evil.
The VTGOP pretends to represent Conservative Vermonters while stabbing them in the back ?
I think the lies are much worse.
Vermont isn’t Iowa but Biden approval is actually underwater in Vermont.
My guy, Trump won 7% or registered Republican voters IN IOWA. 50% of voters again three of the fakest, most unlikeable people we have ever seen.If you think that anything other than complete and utter annihilation is coming in November, then..actually never mind, MAGA is going to clean house just like you think.
The old guard will not relinquish power if the RNC is doling out the money and instructions. “Conspiracy theories” aside, the old guard will discredit, dismiss, and deflect any notion selections are rigged, J6 was 45’s fault, – basically everything wrong is 45’s fault. So, it is a standoff with no stand down or constructive dialog.
Why was Phil missing? The most popular governor in the nation? By the way, I did a survey in a chatroom with patriots from around the country – about 100 or so people. No one knew who our governor is, some asked where is Vermont, others asked if Bernie is running for President again. The nation knows Vermont for Ben and Jerry’s and Bernie. Good luck and God Speed.
Ben and Jerry’s and Bernie? I don’t doubt it. God Help Us.
One person did mention Cabot Cheese – but she is from New Hampshire. She didn’t know who Phil Scott is either.
Divide and conquer is the leftist game in Vermont, and Vermont was the petri dish for the DNC, and progressives, to run shake down cruises, to lay out their agenda, to gain power nationwide.
They did a pretty good job of it, pulling the wool over the politically unsavvy Vermonters eyes, to the point that many old line Vermonters, who voted GOP, are fleeing the state, as they can no longer afford to live here, then the trust funded, utopian progressives, picked up the reins, that the Vermonters ,fleeing the state, due to leftist policies ,dropped on their way out…as I see it, between the late 60’s and now.
Vermont Republican State Committee needs leadership who can unite, and run rough shod, over the dividers, within the party, some of whom I suspect hold their position, to divide, and not unite, the party faithful.
Without strong leadership, the VT GOP will continue to amount to a piss hole in the snow, and as we all know…crap flows downhill, and if the leadership at the top of the GOP heap, fail to control their organization, into a winning machine, steamrolling the left, into pavement, then the end result is worthless as a pisshole in the snow, with the manure falling down, from the top, upon the party faithful keeping them out of power.
It is a dire state of affairs, as I see it, from my perch.
As much as Trump is hated in VT, the GOP should hitch their wagon to Trumps organization, as he is the only one with smarts and balls enough, to whip the party into shape…including Vermont’s GOP.
Vote team Trump and throw the leftist bums out.
The Right Wing GOP needs to read up on their history. When you get a slew of new neighbors, like it or not, and they outnumber you, you have no choice but, to get along. Ask any Native American or anyone whose family was wiped out by Conquistadors.
Also, keep in mind, the Vermont GOP has no affect on the Presidential Primary or Election. None. Nada. Zip.
In a Vermont General Election running on Trump’s coattails, makes a candidate even less significant.
Well purple…you spread doubt and defeatism, behind a jaded 60’s handle,like an acid trip, gone haywire.
I am disinclined, to hold in regard, any misguided insights, put forth by a person who does not have the backbone, and convictions, to post his dribble, hiding behind a handle, that is not their real name.
Nor should anyone else here.
If a man is not willing, to stand up proudly by his convictions, for all the world to see,by their real name,than that is a man not worth listening to.
It is just dribble with nothing behind it.
Mr. Olenick, I absolutely support your comment. Divide and conquer is their gameplan, “they” being the left/prog/Marxists. But don’t you see by poking at “Purple Haze” and making your statements, you are also dividing our citizenry. I’m really sorry to say that, but it must be said because if you want things to be better, you have to be better first. And I’m no paragon of virtue here. I absolutely believe folks should use their real name. And I want to know what they are saying so that I can offer an alternative viewpoint. And know who might be a problem when the poop hits the windmill.
Please, I implore you to keep speaking your mind but don’t sling arrows. And, I’m no peacenik… I just know what happens if we let tempers flare.
Respectfully,
Pam Baker
Well, ethnocentricity, or perhaps bigotry, runs deep. As Native American, why don’t you recommend a good Vermont Republican name for me.
The VTGOP divided itself, it didn’t need help from anyone outside the super-minority to help it.
Just read the threads and you can see, how your people speak about one another.
Life is about change. But it seems some of you struggle with that concept.
The facts are, as evident in this thread and others, the party doesn’t respect Vermonters that disagree with them.
The facts are the party has put forth horrible candidates.
The facts are many Vermonters, if not most, will not support a local candidate that supports Trump. Gov. Scott overwhelmingly won and didn’t support Trump. Madden, who didn’t support Trump received as many votes as Trump endorsed Malloy.
The facts are, if you get outside of the echo chamber, Vermonters are concerned about the cost of living (housing, fuel, healthcare, retirement).
The facts are, outside of the echo chamber, abortion, 2nd Amendment, election integrity, BLM flags are irrelevant, especially if I can’t feed my family. These are losing issues.
Sure, go ahead and say, if you don’t stand for something, you stand for nothing. And that’s where the party is standing outside in the cold, while the elected people, create laws at their whim.
You created this mess by having a lousy divisive messaging, lousy candidates, and very little credibility.
You can’t make change if no one trusts and you’re not elected.
While as a Republican in Vermont is Challenging to say the least .
At every meeting The pledge of Alliance to the flag .
For the USA and to The Republic ,
When Pretendicans , pretend for 3 solid years , out Republic was not Stolen .
By China Joe Biden and the Cabal of Globalist Uniparty.
They have no rite to preach Unity .
Only Joe Biden and Uniparty Rino’s are Preaching Unity that we are on the same side .
While Backstabbing honest citizens, and trying to leach them Dry , Begging for Donations.
One Day the Republican party may Stand for the Republic and the Constitution.
We are not there yet .
Vermont will be last , Marxism and Communism invaded Vermont before the rest of America.
It was an Easy target .
The 1958 Communist Manifesto written for Vermont was never needed .
Realization determined it Un Nessisary as people were Trusting, Kind and helpful to neighbors and the Community.
A few mass Migrations did the Trick ..
In Socialist Canada one must Pledge Allegiance to the Party itself .
My allegiance as a Republican will Always be to the Republic and the Constitution.
While Bogus County Elections have been common, Rules often ignored .
There is a required set of Rules to Follow .
Anything not in those Rules is Covered by Roberts Rules .
Haters Divide .
The Constitution is the only thing that Unites us as Americans. Democrat and Republican alike need to Unite against this Globalist Uniparty Agenda .
I was not offended by the Comment of a Contest with a Skunk .
Only the man does not truly recognize what the Skunk is . When Obama repealed the Smith Mundit Act of 1947 there by allowing the Media to Propagandize Americans .
It became very difficult to Discern what is Truth .
No honest person can claim all Republicans are Good , any more than they can Claim all Democrats are Good .
Likely the largest part of Vermont Republicans are Good if not just a Bit Un informed and Naive believing with out Facts and number of things .
In the end God Wins 🙏 🇺🇸
Seth Keshel
@RealSKeshel
“We must return to the good old days of the Republican Party when we sent our young people to die in wars that could not be won, shipped our jobs overseas and by doing so impoverished entire regions of the country, and refused to assert control over our own national borders, which by failing to do so we impoverish the minority working classes more than anyone else. President Trump, the president who is responsible for ending Roe v Wade, is bad.”
But we must have Decorum.
People get Butt Hurt when the State Chair is called a Democrat pushing BS down the Throats of the Committee.
Democrat was indeed a higher rating than Deserved for Denying a legal election to Acknowledge a Fraudulent one where No Vote was ever held .
I live in one of the also blue states to the south of Vermont, though I love many aspects of Vermont, and one reason I think Vermont might be salvageable is that the demographics are still good relative to other states. Outside of abortion, which Republicans need to ignore in a state like Vermont, it seems to me concentrating on issues like taxes, safety, immigration would expose the crazy Democrats. And the GOP needs to be aggressive about it. I’ve been reading about all these BLM flags still flying at schools jn Vermont. Seems like the white guilt might be stronger in Vermont than anywhere. But most people aren’t activists, they just go along. And they can be moved.
The time is right for a Second Vermont rep. All this backbiting about the swamp of filth would be left to the demented supporters of the former mayor of our fair city on Champlain. On the contrary, our family has been here since before the first republic and the American republic. We could be the Switzerland of North America. Reimagine the Green mountains republic before it is too late.
The time is right for a Second Vermont rep. All this backbiting about the swamp of filth would be left to the demented supporters of the former mayor of our fair city on Champlain. On the contrary, our family has been here since before the first republic and the American republic. We could be the Switzerland of North America. Reimagine the Green mountains republic before it is too late…
So… which is it? Mr. Staunton or Mr. MacDougal? Just curious since you posted the exact comment with two different last names.
Staunton-MacDougal
Vermont Republicans just need to look next door at New Hampshire. Republicans control the legislature there and are passing some fairly conservative legislation. The party there seems to be a somewhat big tent on cultural issues but still opposes the transgender nonsense and other lefty craziness. Vermont is not New Hampshire but is it as different as it seems?