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MAGA meets ‘Hands Off!’ on sidewalk at rally

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Welch’s ‘stupid’ comment is heard near the end of this VDC video

By Guy Page

A very large crowd of Donald Trump and Elon Musk opponents braved hypothermia on the Vermont State House lawn Saturday, April 5 and cheered as Vermont Sen. Peter Welch (D) calledl the POTUS “stupid” for his tariff proposals.

Tariffs will raise Vermonters’ costs on everyday items like heating fuel, Welch said. “It makes no sense….Not only is Donald Trump arrogant, he’s really stupid,” Welch exclaimed, drawing a big cheer and laugh from the crowd. 

Other scheduled speakers on the windy, drizzly, 35-degree day included former Gov. Madeline Kunin, Lt. Gov. John Rodgers, Treasurer Mike Pieciak, and Attorney General Charity Clark. (In past State House press conferences, Rodgers has heavily criticized Trump for what he says are attacks on free speech, including filing a defamation suit against a major media outlet, and DOGE’s proposed Voice of America spending cuts.) 

According to news reports around the state, approximately two dozen “Hands Off!” protests organized by the 5051 network were held in Vermont on a rainy Saturday afternoon from the Northeast Kingdom to Bennington, including Montpelier, Burlington and Vergennes, the Waterbury Roundabout reports. In Montpelier, the police department estimated that between 5,000 and 6,000 people gathered for a rally on the Vermont State House lawn and march through the capital. Signs decried fascism and oligarchy and called for protecting individual rights, Social Security and democracy.

VDC stood on the State Street steps of the architecturally magnificent former National Life Insurance Company building – now HQ for the Vermont Agency on Agriculture, Forests and Food Marketing – and watched the rally attendees – mostly older and white, and my demographic radar tells me almost all Vermonters – wave signs and a flags (including a smattering of Old Glory). 

Liam Carter listens to anti-Trump protester – transcript of often-inaudible discussion appears below. VDC video

Wading into the crowd while wearing my Portland SeaDogs baseball camp and not my MAHA cap, I then videoed about 35 seconds of a one-sided ‘conversation’ in which MAGA hat-wearing 17-year-old Liam Carter of Montpelier listened to a rally attendee who claimed to have worked as professional counselor for 40 years and therefore claimed to know that Trump displays every symptom of a narcissistic personality. 

Mostly she described many things she didn’t like about Trump, Musk and MAGA followers. 

During the segment (very hard to understand due to the crowd background noise), the rally attendee with a Bernie doll in her pocket called out opponents of abortion, which she called ‘appropriate medical care.’ “They’re bigoted, too f—ing right to life,” she said. 

She then railed on DOGE. 

“My niece, f-icking smart as [excrement], she works for the National Institutes of Health. You know what happened to her? On Tuesday? She got fired. Now…think about that…. So she’s going to be looking for a job, right…. 500 hundred million people from her specialty also lose their job.” 

As she spoke, Carter listened, nodded. Then a rally organizer reminded the woman that attendees have been asked to not “escalate.” Carter said thank you and extends his hand to shake hers, but by this time the speaker has been distracted and turns away.

The young man told VDC he had previously wandered through the crowd where he heard someone say “I hope he dies” and another person say “I hope they hang him.”

In that situation, “the best thing you can do is stay calm,” Carter said. “I can empathize,” as he has family members who hate Trump almost as much as some of the crowd obviously did. 

I asked Liam what motivated a teenager to don a MAGA hat and stand amidst 1000 Trump haters. 

“What did it for most people my age, is school,” Carter said. “It’s really like affecting us, what they’re doing both in the libraries and in class.

“There are the physical libraries, and then there are digital libraries, and both of them are susceptible to, you know, propaganda being put through. Same thing with the curriculums,” Carter continued. “People just, you know, go in and interject whatever they want, teachers and whatnot. But the real problem is guidance counselors and administrators, they just have free rein and brainwash every incoming generation that comes through, and there’s no chance for them. 

“It’s like they’re teaching them what to think and not how to think, is the best way to put it,” Carter said. 


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  1. It’s like we are reliving the tumult and cultural rebirth of the late sixties…but without all that distracting “peace and love” messaging. More hate and violent rhetoric from those who accuse the right of being fascists and nazis…what hypocrites. Best for level-headed folks to not take general political advice or put any credibility in commentary from a lefty “professional counselor” who makes a living immersing themself into the mental frailties of other lefty snowflakes. It rubs off, you know. How does one make sense of the fact that a year ago the chief executive was pushing for an electric car mandate and now the feckless lefties are out vandalizing the most popular and innovative electric car make on the market, even though they may have been purchased by individuals 3 years ago? They demand that owners “sell their Teslas”…well, just who are they supposed to sell them to? More liberal “logic” and astroturf activism.

    • Yep. I will never buy any brand of EV! I guess the Libs are stuck with them! Peter Welch 🙄obviously hasn’t noticed that most of the Countries President Trump put Tariffs on are now wanting to negotiate lower tariffs for everyone or equal ones! Why is fair for other countries to put high tariffs on our products and in turn our exports have very low tariffs. That’s not how Fair Trade works. Tariffs will bring jobs and businesses back to the US. But because President Trump did it it’s a bad thing! That’s how the left works.

  2. 2nd paragraph fixed:

    “[The Global Warming Solutions Act] will raise Vermonters’ costs on everyday items like heating fuel, Welch said. “It makes no sense….Not only is [the Democrat Vermont Legislature] arrogant, [they’re] really stupid,” Welch exclaimed, drawing a big cheer and laugh from the crowd.”

    • I had to say it a couple of times, differently, before I got what you wrote……too funny. Propaganda is powerful, no? lol.

      Can you imagine men wearing a similar thing on their heads? We’ve already got too much influence from that region as it is. Interesting times, surely. Can you imagine being a casual observer from another planet?

  3. It appears that Carter is the most intelligent person there so far.

  4. We need healing. Here is a clip from the internet that might be revealing for some.

    Only a Super Empath Can Destroy a Narcissist – Here’s Why! Narcissistic Abuse || DR.JOE DISPENZA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYU58XX1DfY

    Of course, some of us have studied the most super of all Empaths…..fascinating how the two mirror each other so well.

    Peace….Love……..Joy…… are these the fruits of this gathering?

    • I am an Empath and currently dealing with a Narc and although not easy it is working. I am also using some of the same techniques with the Trump haters.

    • Of course, these uninformed protesters don’t understand we live in a Constitutional Republic. The word “democracy” is absent from both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Moreover, these are the same people who think voter ID is a bad idea so they really aren’t interested is “saving democracy” as they are in saving their Progressive rule over others. They should, at least, be intellectually honest with their motives.

    • Just like USAID funded George Soros who then funded BLM. History repeats itself.

  5. Note that the teenager has much higher critical thinking skills — and capacity for civility and personal responsibility — than old white crazies who claim they are counselors and experts. Did she really say 500 million people lost their jobs? According to Bobby Kennedy, 20,000 people are being let go from HHS, where he has found incompetence.

    Kennedy writes “When I arrived, I found that over half of our employees don’t even come to work. ….Some of these little fiefdoms, for example, are so insulated and territorial that they actually hoard our patient medical data and sell it for profit to each other. Instead of remedying the chronic disease crisis, perverse incentives have administrators checking boxes and creating their own homework while public health declines. A few isolated divisions are neglecting public health altogether and seem only accountable to the industries that they’re supposed to be regulating.”

    Perhaps this protester’s niece is as “f-icking smart as [excrement]” as the screaming meanie avers…..

    • Everything Bobby Kennedy is promoting is right out of the democrat playbook from the last 50 years but since he works for Trump now (after being thrown out of the democrat party) the ideas are now dangerous. It illustrates how the democrats always prioritize party over principle…

    • John, I noticed decades ago that pumping money into a cause eventually reaches a stage where it harms efficiency and performance. The bureaucracy becomes more focused on itself than on its alleged purpose.

  6. “500 hundred million people from her specialty also lose their job.” That woman must’ve learned a math from our former President. More people lost their jobs than live in the entire USA.

  7. These Progressive protesters are the same people with their virtue signaling lawn signs that read “hate has no home here”. But it does. Whether is verbally assaulting others, damaging personal property, or burning down businesses for their politics. Also, where Peter Welch when then climate rip off industry is taxing Vermonters into oblivion? In the end, these protesters are livid with the systematic dismantling of the NGOs that launder money for the Democratic Party and their personal gain. Of course they’re mad. But it shouldn’t stop the good work to end the dark money they covet.

    • Thank You for acknowledging that this Climate Crisis is a money making ripoff! Al Gore started all this crap so he could sell his free pass coupons to companies so they didn’t have to improve their Carbon Footprint that he invented. New York City is still there. According to him it should have been totally underwater years ago. The East Coast still has great beaches and Unfortunately California hasn’t fallen off the west coast yet! I hate my tax dollars going to anything that mentions Climate. Why did Vermont sign up with some International Climate BS group anyway?!
      I cannot believe that these Dem:Progressives get away with all this hate and violence and the we elected Officials calling for it! It’s time to take our State and our Country back! Vermont used to be a Red State and she needs to be one again🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  8. God bless that young man , Liam .
    It’s Most encouraging to watch the current political situation both in Vermont and on a national scale .

    I do not Regret Voting for Donald J Trump.
    And fully approve of the elimination of Waste fraud and abuse of taxpayers money.

    Republicans will gain more ground in Vermont in 2026 .
    Due to the non caring attitude by both our Congressional Delegation and the Currently elected Socialist representation in Vermont

    • Yes! Americans do not want to live in a Socialist Country and I don’t want to live in a Socialist State either!

  9. “My niece, f-icking smart as [excrement], she works for the National Institutes of Health. You know what happened to her? On Tuesday? She got fired. Now…think about that…. So she’s going to be looking for a job, right…. 500 hundred million people from her specialty also lose their job.”
    500 million? I hope this is a typo and not the protester’s understanding of the numbers…since the population of the US is under 400 million.

    • Welch isn’t very bright. It’s amazing to me that Vermonter’s don’t see it and keep voting him back in. But then he’s probably selected for just that reason, not being very bright thus easily controlled and manipulated by bureaucrats and lobbyists.

  10. I wanna meet this Liam Carter! Maybe he needs to run for office?

  11. What, Sen. Peter Welch, this moron calledl the POTUS “stupid” for his tariff proposals, I guess he was trying to impress the gaggle of fools on the Capitol lawn, and he has the gall to call the Presitent stupid.

    what does this moron know about anything, he’s just a DNC follower he never has his own ideas, he talks big when he’s told what to say………………we deserve better !!

    Just look at these protestors, and now you know why most of these protestors can’t hold a real job.

    • They are getting paid to Protest🤣🤣That’s about the only job they can probably hold.

  12. It seems like Liam Carter is a very intelligent young man. He is making is own decisions and when asked why he supports Trump he actually has an answer to back it up. If you ask young Democrats they don’t have a clue they just regurgitate Democrat Propaganda!!!
    He’s also right about the schools and how they are indoctrinating our children ! I am terrified for my grandchildren! We need more young people like Liam Carter!

  13. These people are very clueless and violent! Evidently they feel violence is the answer to most things. Sad

  14. Many were paid op’s paid by Soros and the Peace and Justice out of Burlington you may remember as the Red Shirts when the state was fooling with health care

  15. Propaganda works and willfull ignorance is bliss. This is a crowd that believes their entitlements, their retirement accounts, their support net of government handouts are guaranteed – paying no mind to the theft and fraud that has turned those entitlements into fairy dust. A federal deficit of $-36 trillion and counting. A federal reserve that is buying the debt, artificially inflating the market, and devaluing the dollar into a sheckle. 10% of the stock market is individual investors…hmmm

    One thing is certain, that crowd can’t do basic math and have no understanding of montetary systems whatsoever.

  16. See the picture of that crowd. Well, they are all John Rodgers voters. And we wonder why the state is so f-ed up.

  17. VDC got the headline wrong. It should read: PROGRESSIVE COMMUNISTS PROTEST THE AMERICA FIRST AGENDA AT STATE CAPITOL

  18. Touché Liam Carter, you alone son have more brain cells then all of Montpelier!

  19. “Hands off Social Security!” scream the brainwashed masses while Donald Trump and Elon Musk expose Democrats handing our SS money to illegals by the truckload. I recently started a PT retail job at an airport, and the 81-year-old lady who trained me said she hoped “someone will finally shoot Trump.” Wishing death on others – and even encouraging others to commit murder – seems totally acceptable for the libs… whereas every conservative Christian would shrink away from such a thought.

    I firmly believe we have entered the time of tribulation; this is the time of choosing: Who are you with, God or Satan? No more lukewarm in-between. If you choose not to choose, that’s a choice too. And time is running out.

    • I’ve heard similar comments by seemingly sane people. To leftists, no harm is to great to be visited upon anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Their self-unawareness is astounding.

  20. Brainwash our kids as young as possible! Where are we…CHINA??? We see what you progressives are doing and so does brave Liam. Way to go Liam!

  21. Peter Welch calling anyone else stupid shows his profound lack of self-awareness.