H.230, billed as anti-suicide measure, now faces veto, override challenge
By Guy Page
The Vermont House voted 106-34 this morning to accept the Senate version of H.230, the gun control bill that requires firearms storage and a 72-hour waiting period before firearms transfers. The bill will now go to Gov. Phil Scott’s desk, where it faces a possible veto.
Scott has said he believes the waiting period is unconstitutional. If he vetoes the bill, the 106 votes Yes votes received in the House today suggest House Speaker Jill Krowinski will have no difficulty finding 100 votes to override the veto. The amended bill passed the Senate 19-9, a tighter margin for the ⅔ necessary to override.
Based on a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision, “I believe this bill is unconstitutional,” Rep. Joseph Andriano (D-Orwell) said in explanation of his No vote.
Lawmakers supporting the bill expressed hope that if enacted it will reduce Vermont’s high suicide rate. “A disproportionate number of veterans dies by suicide every day. If this law saves one life, it’s worth it,” Rep. Joseph Troiano (D-Stannard), a U.S. Army veteran, said.
The House’s most prominent gun control advocate said he’s satisfied with the Senate changes to H.230.
“Critically, the Senate did not touch the 72 hour waiting period,” House Judiciary Chair Martin Lalonde said on the floor of the House. The Senate did relax storage facilities – making failure to a store a crime only if someone is harmed – but that’s still better than current law, which has no storage requirements at all, Lalonde said.
Rep. Mark Higley (R-Lowell) requested a roll call. The vote was as follows:
YES
Arsenault of Williston *
Brady of Williston *
Dolan of Essex Junction *
Houghton of Essex Junction *
Mulvaney-Stanak of Burlington *
Notte of Rutland City *
Troiano of Stannard *
Williams of Barre City *
Andrews of Westford
Anthony of Barre City
Arrison of Weathersfield
Austin of Colchester
Bartholomew of Hartland
Berbeco of Winooski
Birong of Vergennes
Black of Essex
Bluemle of Burlington
Bongartz of Manchester
Bos-Lun of Westminster
Boyden of Cambridge
Brown of Richmond
Brumsted of Shelburne
Burke of Brattleboro
Burrows of West Windsor
Buss of Woodstock
Campbell of St. Johnsbury
Carpenter of Hyde Park
Carroll of Bennington
Casey of Montpelier
Chapin of East Montpelier
Chase of Chester
Chase of Colchester
Chesnut-Tangerman of Middletown Springs
Christie of Hartford
Cina of Burlington
Coffey of Guilford
Cole of Hartford
Conlon of Cornwall
Corcoran of Bennington
Cordes of Lincoln
Demrow of Corinth
Dodge of Essex
Dolan of Waitsfield
Durfee of Shaftsbury
Elder of Starksboro
Emmons of Springfield
Farlice-Rubio of Barnet
Goldman of Rockingham
Graning of Jericho
Headrick of Burlington
Holcombe of Norwich
Hooper of Burlington
Hooper of Randolph
Howard of Rutland City
Hyman of South Burlington
Jerome of Brandon
Kornheiser of Brattleboro
Krasnow of South Burlington
LaBounty of Lyndon
Lalley of Shelburne
LaLonde of South Burlington
LaMont of Morristown
Lanpher of Vergennes
Leavitt of Grand Isle
Lipsky of Stowe
Logan of Burlington
Long of Newfane
Masland of Thetford
McCann of Montpelier
McCarthy of St. Albans City
McGill of Bridport
Mihaly of Calais
Minier of South Burlington
Morris of Springfield
Mrowicki of Putney
Nicoll of Ludlow
Noyes of Wolcott
Nugent of South Burlington
O’Brien of Tunbridge
Ode of Burlington
Pajala of Londonderry
Patt of Worcester
Pearl of Danville
Pouech of Hinesburg
Priestley of Bradford
Rachelson of Burlington
Rice of Dorset
Roberts of Halifax
Satcowitz of Randolph
Scheu of Middlebury
Sheldon of Middlebury
Sibilia of Dover
Sims of Craftsbury
Small of Winooski
Squirrell of Underhill
Stebbins of Burlington
Stevens of Waterbury
Stone of Burlington
Surprenant of Barnard
Taylor of Colchester
Toleno of Brattleboro
Torre of Moretown
Waters Evans of Charlotte
White of Bethel
Whitman of Bennington
Wood of Waterbury
NO
Andriano of Orwell *
Donahue of Northfield *
Sammis of Castleton *
Williams of Granby *
Bartley of Fairfax
Beck of St. Johnsbury
Branagan of Georgia
Brennan of Colchester
Canfield of Fair Haven
Clifford of Rutland City
Demar of Enosburgh
Galfetti of Barre Town
Goslant of Northfield
Graham of Williamstown
Gregoire of Fairfield
Harrison of Chittenden
Higley of Lowell
Labor of Morgan
Laroche of Franklin
Maguire of Rutland City
Marcotte of Coventry
Mattos of Milton
Morgan of Milton
Morrissey of Bennington
Oliver of Sheldon
Page of Newport City
Parsons of Newbury
Peterson of Clarendon
Shaw of Pittsford
Smith of Derby
Taylor of Milton
Templeman of Brownington
Toof of St. Albans Town
Walker of Swanton
ABSENT:
Brownell of Pownal
Burditt of West Rutland
Dickinson of St. Albans Town
Garofano of Essex
Hango of Berkshire
James of Manchester
McCoy of Poultney
McFaun of Barre Town
Wilson of Lyndon
Asterisks denote a comment recorded in the House Journal, not available at this time.
Categories: Gunrights
So, it’s okay for Vermont to be a destination state for assisted suicide, but they want to stop unassisted suicide.
As long as the state gets its cut…
Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it but anything that makes sense they do the opposite.
I said something similar to someone. Suicide tourism. They claimed I was stupid if I couldn’t tell the difference. But 3 days is magic. No one will kill themselves on day 4, right?
You can’t distinguish between a terminally ill person who decides to end their life after consulting with medical and mental health professionals and a person who impulsively takes their own life because they are suffering from PTSD?
This super majority is having a field day destroying our rights. They just ended gun shows in VT.
Idiotic as always, you seriously don’t think a vet doesn’t already own a firearm? Stupid. Come to my house and tell me I need to store my firearms to your guidance 😆
We get what we get when we allow a majority of democRATS and other woke left wingers to rule over us.
Only by Voter Fraud..
When is anyone going to talk about the real problem…..mental health. Gun control hasn’t fixed the problems in the past and it won’t fix it now. Our government is blinded by the darkness taking over this country. Regardless of party, your eyes should be open to the evil in this country. What was wrong is right and what is right is wrong.
If they talked about the real problem, mental health and psychotropic drugs they wouldn’t have the gun control issue. They want to disarm us so they can control us.
“You don’t throw rocks at a man with a machine gun”. Rowdy Roddy Piper
Carbon monoxide is easier – that’s why they want EV’s …(tongue-in-cheek)
Hopefully a Lawsuit coming! YOU IDIOT SWAMP RATS 🐀 🐀
Just keep voting for these degusting Human beings 🤡 You ldiot’s!!
THE VERMONTER FROM THE RIGHT SIDE WITH COMMON SENSE PERIOD!!
I wonder if we can now prosecute the parents of these kids who commit suicide because they should have locked up the guns from them?
Only possible with Voter Fraud…
Supreme Court here we come !
supreme court will overrule this
Now our eunuch governor thinks it’s unconstitutional. He didn’t think that when he signed Vermont’s Universal Background Check & Magazine ban. Scott gave them an inch and now they’re back for five miles. https://vermontdailychronicle.com/bill-would-mandate-all-firearms-licensing-registration-and-insurance/
And his veto will be overridden.
Then there is this lame statement: “A disproportionate number of veterans dies by suicide every day. If this law saves one life, it’s worth it,” Rep. Joseph Troiano (D-Stannard), a U.S. Army veteran, said.
Hey Joe, is there a 72-hour waiting period in Vermont to buy Fentanyl?
Constitution? What Constitution? say the belligerent occupiers of the Golden Dome. Has it sunk in yet that the insurgence and overthrow of the Republic is real? Has the reality of the deadly consequences taken hold yet? If not, very soon the stark reality will take hold and no one will be immune to the fallout.
Check out the list of absent, the ones to busy to vote for our constitutional rights. If they don’t have a really good reason for missing this vote, they should be voted out of office. Noted, McFaun of Bare Town and McCoy of Putney, both republicans and McCoy is the minority leader. Thank you for bailing on my constitutional rights!
Modest gun control reforms at best, but at least a move in the right direction and a good first step. Here’s hoping for a quick override of the expected veto.
A right delayed is a right denied.
― Martin Luther King Jr.
Democrats want you dead. Never forget it. You vote democrat you have signed your own death warrant. Gun control is not about “saving lives” it is about making sure you can’t save your own life.
Gun control is secretly people control, we need to stop vilifying firearms they are a tool, a firearm does not just get up and start killing people, the second that the mass shooter is shot in the head by a good guy with a gun whether it’s a private citizen or law enforcement guess what the firearm stops shooting wonder why because it wasn’t the firearm shooting people it was a evil mentally ill person shooting that firearm. Putting these gun laws in place for safe storage and a 72 hour wait isn’t going to stop people from going and committing suicide if they really want to commit suicide they’re going to do it one way or another, yes don’t get me wrong I believe that everyone should be using safe storage for their firearms keeping them out of the hands of children and people who should not have them but we shouldn’t be having the government telling us what we need to do and not do, it’s crazy how people just give up essential liberties for a little promise security from the government that never comes, the government is not our friends they do not want what’s best for us, all the government does is trample all over our constitutional rights, our liberties and freedoms, we literally pay the political parasites to take away our freedoms to stop all over our constitutional rights which the founding fathers fought so hard shedding blood sweat and tears In order to give us, an American today so quickly and easily just give them up. I bet you that if you ask every American if they Trust the government, 80% would say no they don’t but yet turn to them begging them to take away their freedoms and rule over them. If history teaches us anything it is that when the citizens are well armed, We have Rights, liberties, and freedoms but when the government has all the firearms tyranny rains supreme. Vermont has always been a constitutional state, Vermont has always had the lowest crime rates, Vermont is the second or third most safest state to live in, the more and more gun control that the state government implements here in Vermont you will see crime rates start to rise because criminals want easy targets.
states with stronger gun laws have lower rates of gun deaths than states with weaker laws. Research has also shown that common-sense gun laws such as background checks, waiting periods, and restrictions on high-capacity magazines and assault weapons can reduce gun violence without infringing on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.
Additionally, it’s worth noting that the Second Amendment was written in a time when firearms were much less deadly and much less widely available than they are today. The Founding Fathers could not have foreseen the level of gun violence and mass shootings that we face in modern times, and it’s reasonable to update our laws accordingly to address this public health crisis.
Finally, it’s important to recognize that responsible gun ownership does not require unrestricted access to firearms. We can support the rights of responsible gun owners while also taking steps to prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands and reducing the toll of gun violence in our communities.