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Double voting ‘rare,’ VT election office says

 “Attempted double voting is incredibly rare, and when it does happen it is caught, investigated and acted on,” Secretary of State’s office says

Ballot mailed to Ohio registered voter and former Vermonter Shannara Johnson

By Guy Page

Vermont voters who have moved out of state are receiving mailed ballots for the November 8, 2022 general election. 

In response to Vermont Daily Chronicle questions about possible double-dipping by voters, the Vermont Secretary of State’s office conceded some former Vermont residents are receiving ballots, explained the legal consequences of getting caught voting in two different states, and urged Vermonters voting elsewhere to have their names removed from Vermont checklists. 

Shannara Johnson

Last night, Shannara Johnson, a former Morrisville resident and 2020 candidate for the Vermont House of Representatives, emailed Vermont Daily Chronicle a photo of the Vermont ballot she received in the mail – in Ohio, her new state of residence.

“Today, I received this forwarded Vermont mail-in ballot. So much for election safety,” Shannara Johnson noted with the photo of the Vermont ballot.

Vermont Daily Chronicle this morning asked the Vermont Secretary of State’s office: “A former Vermont resident and current Ohio resident and registered voter emailed me yesterday saying she received a Vermont ballot in the mail. What’s to stop her from voting in both elections?”

SOS spokesperson Eric Covey promptly emailed this response:

“The security and integrity of Vermont elections are our office’s top priority.

“Ballots were sent to all active, registered Vermont voters. It is possible in some instances that voters have moved and did not submit notification to the Clerk/BCA of their move.

“Voting twice is a very serious offense, and there are significant legal repercussions. Voting by mail in Vermont requires the voter to sign a sworn affidavit that they are who they say they are, that they are eligible to vote, and that their vote was not dully influenced. This signature is done under the pains and penalties of perjury.

“Anyone wishing to commit an act of double voting would have to perjure themselves and risk significant legal penalties when caught, all to what end? To influence an election in a state they no longer live in by a single vote?

 “Attempted double voting is incredibly rare, and when it does happen it is caught, investigated and acted on.

“You know as well as we do that voter fraud is exceedingly rare. If you disagree, please provide actual evidence of voter fraud in Vermont elections.

“Fortunately, the local checks we have in place when the Clerks process incoming ballots mean that in the very rare case that someone does decide to cheat they will be discovered.

 “The security and integrity of Vermont elections are our office’s top priority.

 “Universal ballot mailing and voting by mail has been proven as safe and secure in Vermont, and nationally. It has been used in red and blue states for years, and even decades in some cases.

 “The voter you reference should contact their former Town or City Clerk to inform them that they have moved, and can be removed from the voter checklist. The Clerk will provide instructions on the return or destruction of the ballot they were mailed.”

VDC asked Covey to provide details about “the local checks we have in place when the Clerks process incoming ballots.” He replied:

“The certificate of every returned ballot is checked by the Town Clerk or their election workers to ensure it has been completed and signed, and that there is nothing suspect with ballot package. The name and voter # of each voter is also printed on the envelope, as an additional security measure. Then, the voter is marked off the entrance checklist as having voted. The Town Clerks know their voters and their communities.”

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  1. An open invitation for fraud, concocted by the feds and here we go again…walk or drive to the polls and vote in person…the “pandemic is over” says Joe Zero Biden…so let’s return to normal, in every way, including traditional voting…

    • I totally agree, and people may request an absentee ballot if unable to go to the voting venue in person. That has been available for a long time.

    • I don’t believe a word that comes out of the Secretary of State’s office most of all Condos. I’m still waiting for a answer from him as to why my husband who passed away in 2004 got a mail in ballot. There’s fraud in Vermont Governments and they have a D after their names P Scott should have one after his name he’s a RINO

  2. Eric Covey knows full well that ‘clerks’ don’t process ‘ballots.’ Where needed, they may process the certificate envelopes to enable voters to ‘cure’ their mistakes, but only the BCA may ‘process’ ballots. Moreover, why did the USPS forward that mail out of state? Too many questions, too few answers. Add no voter ID and the risk of voter fraud multiplies. Shameful.

  3. In 2019 I move from one Vermont town to another just 24.2 miles away. I registered to vote in my new town and received a ballot from my old town as well as one from my new town. Sometimes town clerks just don’t pay attention.

  4. I found my neighbor’s ballot in an open recycle bin the other day. Any one of 100 people could have grabbed it for a second vote. (Of course, I’m turning it over to the correct neighbor)

  5. I just got mail in ballots for ex girlfriends from over ten years ago. Again. I even called the town and was told they’d be removed after the last voting cycle. Now imagine how bad it is in the college towns. Of course the free ballots get fraudulently sent in by the ever neurotic lefties. There should be NO mail in ballots aside from very limited circumstances like health or military deployment.

    • Wait a sec. How many “ex-girlfriends” do you have moving in and out while you maintain the same residence? Should we be looking for them?

  6. If one fails to look for double votes, then there are no double votes.
    This system is intentionally prone to cheating, design that way by the legislature and SOS- but I’ve learned to expect nothing less from the current legislature.

  7. This is, of course, BS. The question to ask the SOS office is not about “Double Voting.” Yes, if I vote by mail and then show up to vote in person I’m likely to get caught. The question is what happens when the ballot Kevin found in the garbage is retrieved by someone not the intended voter and gets sent in? What happens when the ex-girlfriends ballot shows up in the mailbox, or the previous owner who’s been gone ten years. How, please ask, will election officials discover the fraudulent vote, trace it back to the person who fraudulently submitted it, and prosecute that person? The “where’s your evidence” retort is nonsense. They’ve created a system where there will never be any evidence of cheating because it’s impossible to detect, even if cheating is rampant.

    Another fun question for the SOS or AG: How many Vermonters have been arrested and prosecuted for stealing lawn signs. Does the fact that number is zero mean it never happens?

    Folks finding these issues with ballots, PLEASE share here on the Vermont Daily so we can show the evidence.

    • Exactly! ACTUAL EVIDENCE HAS BEEN GIVEN AND DISMISSED BY THESE JOKES WE HAVE IN OFFICE!!
      Kevin Hoyt and a team of people have personally done thousands of hours of work investigating the fraud and found a lot of it! He informed MANY officials including the SOS to no avail!
      #VoterFraudInVermontIsReal
      #KEVINHOYT4VTGOVERNOR❤️

  8. Friend of mine that lives in VT requested absentee ballots for himself and wife. They were received, and a few days later two additional ballots arrived? So, once again tell me how Joe Biden became President far and square?

  9. i just moved; my tc told me “ballots are not forwarded” (Wolcott)
    I had wanted to vote in Vt since all my research was on our candidates and have lived there most of the year….told to register at new address, which I did yesterday.
    I have lived in Vt my whole life, Ive left because it is out of control in too many ways…..we will see if I get a forwarded ballot…..and I will share

  10. All this silly testimony by leftist authoritarian democrats about how safe junk mail voting is is nonsense and lies. The truth is they have no idea how pervasive voter fraud is, and it is plentiful. These charlatans have no concern for voter integrity and complete concern for power grabbing. Just note the language they use. Recently the head of the Vermont democrat party called Republicans “filthy insurrectionists.” To think Vermont democrats are concerned with anything other than forcing their will upon you by any means possible is to shamefully fool yourself. Never, ever vote for democrats under any circumstance if you want your life to improve.

  11. “Vermont requires the voter to sign a sworn affidavit that they are who they say they are, that they are eligible to vote.” However, since no signature is required in Vermont to register to vote, they have nothing to compare the signature on any ballot to . . . rendering the ballot signature useless.

  12. I would hope he does not provide all the checks and balances; and that you merely satisfy yourself that they work and so inform us of that. Knowing the checks and balances only increases the potential for a successful breach of security.

  13. “Safest, most secure election in history”….what was #2? They dont know and thats a false statement because no one is actually measuring that. There is no agency, there is no metric. Mail in voting must be limited to those that actually need it. Its ripe with fraud.

  14. Way too many ballots floating around including to folks who have died or moved. Biden says the pandemic is over, we need to go back to voting in person! Mail in ballots for military and people who prove their health is so they cannot get to the polls. We all know there is voter fraud.

  15. I recently bought a home in Essex Jct. The couple before only lived there a year, and before that it was a rental with many many occupants- I know because I receive ALL their mail.
    What I NEVER received however is a ballot for ANYONE else except for myself and partner.
    I will vote straight red/libertarian regardless, but this fraud nonsense has to stop. Republicans need to spend much more time LEARNING why swing voters were disenchanted with Trump enough not to hold their nose a second time and make the necessary corrections. Until then they will keep losing.

  16. Elections are Rigged. Fix 2020, or America will end up as another Venezuela. Where is the logic in voting your way out of a Rigged Election “System”? Rigged for a long time, they are “Selections”.

    Here’s a starter: 32 (soon to be 33) States send their Voter Rolls to ERIC, Inc. What do you think ERIC really does with the Voter Rolls? How would you know what they really do? Do you trust ERIC?

    Here’s the website: https://ericstates.org

    Will Senning, Director of Elections and Campaign Finance, Vermont, is one of the 2022-2023 Board Members.

    The Ballots are used to cover for the inflated Voter Rolls. Voter Rolls go up and down as they are manipulated from “Selection” to “Selection”.

  17. Is ‘mail-in’ balloting problematic? A reasonable person should think so. Consider these press releases.

    – Delaware judge rules no-excuse mail-in voting unconstitutional

    – A Pennsylvania court has ruled that the mass mail-in ballots that played a pivotal role in the 2020 election chaos are unconstitutional.

    – Texas federal judge rules mail-in voting procedure unconstitutional, orders officials to fix signature verification

    – Harvard Law Prof: USPS Failures Expose Constitutional Violations in Vote-By-Mail Laws of Several States

    – WOBURN, MA — Nearly a year after the November 2020 election, Democratic Secretary of State Bill Galvin says he’s troubled over the future of mail-in voting.

    – BALTIMORE, MD — There is a new round of legal filings and arguments this week over when mail-in ballots should be opened and tallied, with the Maryland Court of Appeals set to hear oral arguments on the issue on Friday.

    – Wisconsin Supreme Court prohibits use of most ballot drop boxes

    – Lawsuit: Georgia mail-in ballot postage is unconstitutional

    Now what was that about ‘the big lie’ again?

  18. Why cant we do signature verification? “Safest most secure election ever “…..that’s the big lie

  19. Be prepared to reboot the society after the collapse, when the snowflakes wouldn’t be able to live on rationed food, energy and suspended bank accounts. Like the Stasi in East Germany, our government will give you extra food if you turn in your neighbor for possessing guns, bibles, and truthful thoughts. It’s inevitable!

  20. The voting system in Vermont is essentially run on the “honor system”, just like the system that qualifies someone for free or subsidized housing and many other benefits from the welfare cornucopia. Fraud is RAMPANT throughout.

  21. I have a question for a friend, as well as myself. My friend’s husband passed away in Feb., and she received a ballot for him as well as for herself. Since the Town Clerk receives a copy of the Death Certificate is it their responsibility to remove the name of the deceased from the voting list? Is it then the responsibility of the Town Clerk to notify the SOS office? My friend intends to take it to the TO, where she will tera it up.

  22. SOOOOO UNIMPRESSED!!!! Sorting through our mail and there are our “official” ballots for voting, looking VERY much like junk mail. In the same type of envelope that junk mail comes in, and very easy to ignore. NOT HAPPY!!! If we wanted ballots mailed to us we would have requested they be mailed to us. This process is SLOPPY and ripe for cheating….AGAIN!!! We need a Secretary Of State who’s going to work to rid our state of this process, because this is inexcusable.

  23. >>>”“You know as well as we do that voter fraud is exceedingly rare. If you disagree, please provide actual evidence of voter fraud in Vermont elections.”<<<
    ACTUAL EVIDENCE HAS BEEN GIVEN AND DISMISSED BY THESE JOKES WE HAVE IN OFFICE!!
    Kevin Hoyt and a team of people have personally done thousands of hours of work investigating the fraud and found a lot of it! He informed MANY officials including the SOS to no avail!
    #VoterFraudInVermontIsReal
    #KEVINHOYT4VTGOVERNOR❤️

  24. “Ballots were sent to all active, registered Vermont voters. It is possible in some instances that voters have moved and did not submit notification to the Clerk/BCA of their move.”

    My neighbor moved from VT to MA about ten years ago, informed our Town Clerk of the move, and hasn’t voted (i.e., been ‘active’) since then. I noticed a few days ago that he is still on the voter checklist and asked him to contact the Town Clerk again. I, apparently, am not authorized to provide that notice.

    Isn’t it curious. When some people break the law, it’s an honest mistake. When others break the same law, they’re impeached, fired, chastised, and shunned.

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