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VT Headlines: Christmas tourtiere bakers shut down by Vermont Dept. of Health

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  1. The State Grinch is right on time I see… may all that backfire on those who did it…

  2. Blatant hypocritical discrimination against people of French-Canadian background. What happened to all the hollow apologies for Vermont’s eugenics programs??? Free the meat pies! Hey Hey, Ho Ho, the tourtiere banners have got to go!

  3. Been making meat pies since the 80’s with apparently no problems. Good work State of Vermont trying to fix something that isn’t broken. But you got to keep your bureaucracy going somehow for that 6 figure income

  4. The VT government has has grown too large to be accountable or useful to it’s citizens. Local governments need to reclaim their authority of looking out for their immediate community.

  5. These folks didn’t have the money to grease enough palms at the agency like the large food companies do… or so says NPR regarding all the recalls, as if companies enjoy doing recalls.

  6. “Waterman clarified that the Bombardiers ‘were not processing the meat improperly, but they were doing it in a space they weren’t supposed to do it in, which is their home kitchen.'”

    Give me a break! This should be a simple matter. We’re not dealing with state law here, we’re dealing with a regulatory agency, which has no power to create law or act under the color of law. Therefore, what they say and their very existence are, frankly, irrelevant. It’s no more than yet another bullying tactic. The sooner we finally wake up and realize this simple fact, the better off we’ll all be.

    But, but, but… they’re protecting “SAFETY”! No. Common sense and the free market protect safety. A) If their pies were terrible, no one would buy them. B) If someone got sick and it could be traced back to their pies, then the free market solution would be to sue them. Again, wrecking their little business. Their CHARITABLE business.

    Because yeah, it’s going to be GREAT publicity for whatever agency has them arrested and hauled into court if they don’t stop. Yup, that’s going to be a GREAT look. Why not SWAT them at 4:00 AM while they’re at it? Morons!

    Whatever happened to requiring a victim to prove a “wrong”?

    • I believe the report referenced in Seven Days is vague and incomplete. It’s not that meat pies can’t be sold from home. The Williston couple who bakes the pies must get a license. Then they can sell what they do.

    • Re: …you mean the Williston couple must pay a tax . . . er fee?

      Yes… ostensibly to register their formal existence as a business, including the designation of a specified business agent recorded with the Sec. of State, so both the customers who purchase the meat pies, and the business owners themselves, can have specific legal recourse in State and Federal courts when there is a dispute.

      And before anyone says that the registration fees are usurious, it would be good reporting to know how much they are, let alone that they exist at all.

      Does the Vermont government overregulate and overtax its citizens and tourists? You bet they do. IMHO they are, for the most part, beggars and thieves. But as the saying goes – don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Registering to do business in Vermont is a public service consistent with the reason governments exist in the first place. As Ben Franklin opined in 1787,

      “In these Sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its Faults, if they are such: because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well administred; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years, and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.”

      Is the Vermont government well administered? I don’t think so. Is the Vermont legislature ‘despotic’. Yes. But to claim that the Williston couple’s business was ‘shut down’ by the Department of Health seems to me to be a misleading headline. And while it may have been intended to get our attention, it likely misrepresents the whole story.

    • Re: . . . “before anyone says that the registration fees are usurious, it would be good reporting to know how much they are”

      I believe the cost to set up a LLC is $275 and then there is a $25 fee charged by the SoS website every time you make even a minor change to the business (i.e. mailing address, registered agent, file biennial report, etc). If they happen to have an existing business registered with the SoS they can reserve a DBA under it for the $25 fee.

    • Re: I believe the cost to set up a LLC is $275 ..

      Licensing doesn’t require a business to be an LLC (Limited Liability Corp.), although it’s not a bad idea to do so. And the cost of setting up an LLC in Vermont can be as low as $40. Furthermore, the married couple can choose to operate as a simple sole proprietorship instead.

  7. Absolutely Disgusting!! As someone who purchases them during the holidays (If I don’t have time to make myself) I will continue to make those purchases ! The State of Vermont cannot collect any taxes so they are not happy. Hopefully soon these unconstitutional regulatory agencies will go away !

  8. The couple’s biggest mistake was likely advertising in the Front Porch Forum, a haven for leftist censors and “do rights.”

  9. Good catch AG dept, there’s got to be a safer product out there by a reputable certified, licensed food processor like tyson or smithfield. 😏

  10. Vermont Ag Dept shutting down a seasonal tradition that was running perfectly fine for nearly 40 years? The same Department that allows Big Pharma and Billy Goat Gates to poison our food and dairy with impunity. I don’t feel good about Hood or any corporation preparing my food or beverages these days. I’d rather have a home cooked product than lab grown that’s for sure!