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VT Headlines: DOJ sues Vermont over voter registration data

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  1. Systems is bent,just like the EB-5 program was in VT despite support in the highest circles of government ,outside influences utilizing naive state voter practices with outside money and technology with proven backdoors built in, to allow the left to seize control and not via honest elections, hence Trumps cleaning up the voter rolls and the processes. If it is clean…what’s to hide?

    Why is the VT SOS office refusing to clean up the process…where there is smoke…there is fire…follow the voting process, and votes, and be transparent ,those who are not transparent, in government, are hiding wrongdoing… nine times out of ten.

    Where wrongdoing is found throw the book at them to the full extent of the law and lock them up doing hard time.

  2. Regarding “DOJ sues Vermont” Am I wrong, or do these 14 states comprise the 14 most loony left states in the country ? Does this mean that 36 states see nothing wrong with following the Federal Government’s request ? Never mind it’s probably just a coincidence . I’m sure there is no politics being played here .

  3. The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 and the The Help America Vote Act of 2002 passed by bipartisan actions of Congress both mandate the cleanup of voter rolls and are every bit as much pieces of civil rights law as any other, protecting the voting franchise of all LEGITIMATE voters. Any state or political entity that stands in their way does so reminiscent of Gov. George Wallace standing in a doorway of the University of Alabama.

  4. What is Vermont hiding, illegal activity, votes or both? Why wouldn’t the voter rolls be a matter of public record? There seems to be a concerted effort to hide anything that is being used to aid the Far Left Democrats in this State!

  6. What, other than Social Security data, is in the state’s voter registration data that Copeland-Hanzas, Clark, Gov. Phil Scott and Congressional Rep. Becca Balint claims will compromise Vermont voters if the VT SOS abides by the DOJ request?

    Are they aware of the fact that it is the Federal Government that assigns and monitors the Soc. Sec. data in the first place?

    Or is the VT SOS trying to hide its own misuse of this data?

  7. Same day voter registration gives someone the chance to vote as many times as one wants to depending on how far one wants to travel in a day. Nearly every persons physical address is on their mailbox so finding an address to use is not hard. With same day registration, towns don’t have the means to see if the person actually lives in town or not. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    • Yes Dan, you are utterly and completely wrong. Do you think that someone is stealing addresses in Vermont and voting in every precinct lol? Have you ever voted in Vermont? The people working the elections have been at my precinct for forty years, they know everyone in the neighborhood.

      From the website of the National Conference of State Legislatures

      Locations
      Town or city clerk’s office before the election, and precinct polling place where voter resides on Election Day.

      Verification
      Vermont has the ability to conduct a post-election audit that would identify any individual who registered and voted in more than one town in the same election. The results of that report would be sent to the attorney general’s office for investigation and prosecution.

    • Why thank you very much, Chris. I started voting in Vermont in 1971. Boy, is my face red. I didn’t say someone was, I asked if it could be done.

    • The problem is with mail-in ballots. While the ballot requires a signature, town clerks can’t verify the signature even if they want to, because they don’t keep signatures on file. Audits are useless. And local election staff can’t recognize the face of someone submitting a mail-in ballot.

      And because only 75% of registered Vermont voters typically exercise the right to vote, all a fraudster need do is submit mail-in ballots numbering something less than 25% of the registered voter list with nothing more than an X designating a signature.

      Even a minimal 1-2% swing is often sufficient to throw an election.

    • “Mail ballots are essential for holding a safe election amid Covid-19, and security concerns can be easily addressed.”

      Yea… right.

    • Chris, your observation only really applies to small towns, in the larger locations or those with workers that have an ulterior motive this may not apply. Have been voting in small town Vermont starting in 1979, but moved to a bit larger area and have not seen the same faces at every election.

    • Ron: Small town or big city, the authenticity of a voter submitting a mail-in ballot can’t be verified or visually recognized without ‘canvassing’.

    • yes Chris, in a perfect society, we have election integrity, but here we are. The US AG Pam Bondi has already uncovered many abuses of SSI, ie almost a million people collecting at 100 years plus, any sane person would see this being nearly impossible, but there you are.

    • Jay, Agree with you, personally cringe when the unrequested ballot is received in the mail. The current COVID process has a great fraud potential, whether fully realized in Vermont or not. There have always been mail in ballots available in all locations, they were called Absentee Ballots upon request. We need to go back to that system.

    • My next door neighbor moved out in August, 2024. The husband had died seven months earlier. Two ballots were still delivered to the mailbox. The new owners did the right thing and threw them away, but there was nothing stopping them from filling them out and mailing them back.

  8. I-for one-am very happy the SOS is being challenged. I base my opinion on what I have experienced in my (now} very Liberal Town. I am not going to get into details here because I am already on their “list” because I have challenged them. What makes it even worse is that I knew that I shouldn’t waste my time contacting the SOS Office, which was confirmed by several like-minded folks. So-does all of this surprise me? NO! BTW- we {me and my family) are forever residents of this Town.

  9. …. H. Jay Eshelman……”The problem is with mail-in ballots.”…….couldn’t agree more…… In my view,if you can’t Vote in person,your SOL ….

  10. Recall the line – “the USA is spreading freedom and democracy around the world.” Recall seeing images of third world country people lining up, putting their finger on an ink pad to mark their selection. See how prosperous and great our democracy worked out for them since? So much so, they come pouring into here to return the favor – respreading what was sprayed upon them?

    There is no business like show business and most certainly, no honor among thieves.

  11. Update: The VT SOS is already beginning to cover its tracks as it prepares to fork over the data the U.S. DOJ is requesting. As reported in VT DIgger:

    “The Vermont Secretary of State’s Office denied a request in August from Trump’s Department of Justice to hand over voter data. On Monday, the Trump administration sued Vermont to force the state to comply.”

    So now, all of a sudden:

    “MONTPELIER — An audit of local voter rolls prompted by the error-plagued race for a Vermont House seat in Bennington County last year uncovered 100 more cases across the state in which people had been assigned to vote in the wrong legislative district.”

    Tip of the iceberg? We won’t know until VT’s SOS allows the Trump DOJ to cross reference its data with Vermont SOS’s data. But given Vermont’s refusal to cooperate, I have to suspect there are more revelations to come.

  12. The one investigation no one wants to do is to compare the percentage of registered voters that actually voted last few years to pre-COVID in person voting that did the same thing. Some States have had reports of numbers well over 100% of registered voters voting, i.e. 100,000 registered voters but a total of number of votes cast 130,000. This would be the best indicator that there is mail in vote fraud.