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Vetoes overridden include public education funding, overdose prevention centers, Act 250 modernization, renewable energy legislation
Montpelier, VT – Today, the Vermont House of Representatives voted to override the Governor’s vetoes of the overdose prevention center bill, the bill to fund Vermont’s public education, the Act 250 modernization bill, and the bill to update our Renewable Energy Standard (H.72, H.887, H.687, and H.289 respectively). The votes were 104-41, 103-42, 107-38, and 102-43. Speaker Jill Krowinski issued the following statement following both roll call votes:
“Today, the House reiterated our commitment to the future of our public education system, the need for new tools to combat the overdose crisis, the needed changes to streamline our development process and bring housing opportunities online rapidly, and update our Renewable Energy Standard.
“Throughout the session we had success in working with the Governor and his administration to have legislation signed into law. Unfortunately, and despite repeated efforts, we were unable to find a compromise on these bills that would guarantee immediate success and long-term stability in our education, health care, and community development systems. Overriding these vetoes ensures that Vermont children have access to a quality education, those battling addiction have access to a new resource to get support, communities will be able to bring on housing and reduce the impact of the housing crisis, and we have access to clean, low cost electricity.
“H.887, the bill to fund our public education system, represents a collaborative and forward-thinking piece of legislation to address the current and future needs of our education system and the affordability issues facing many Vermonters. The bill contains nearly $100 million dollars in immediate tax relief to lower the property tax bills facing Vermonters. Additionally, it puts us on a path to find ways to lower the cost of education while ensuring our teachers and students have the resources they need and deserve.
“H.72, the overdose prevention center bill, gives us an additional resource to help us support Vermonters battling addiction. It is impossible to take away the pain and loss so many Vermont families and communities have experienced from the loss of a Vermonter to an overdose. We have invested in substance use programs and resources for years, but we continue to see many Vermonters struggle. Any overdose death is unacceptable. I am proud of the vote to override the veto today and I hope that it will provide another path for any Vermonter to get the care they deserve.
“H.687, the bill to modernize Act 250, is a critical step in developing more housing and helping our state through the housing crisis before us. The bill streamlines housing development while preserving our Vermont landscape and was crafted by a variety of stakeholders from business, housing, and environmental organizations. I am so thankful for their collaborative work and the bi-partisan support this bill received in the House. We need to do all we can to make sure that Vermonters have access to affordable housing options, and this is a big step forward in making that happen.
“H.289, the bill updating Vermont’s Renewable Energy Standard, is a crucial meet our climate change goals, create high paying jobs, and protect Vermonters from the volatile price increases of the global fossil fuel market. Vermont currently has the lowest electricity rates in New England and this will support our work to increase the reliability of our electric grid while also ensuring we are doing so with clean energy. Our state is incredibly reliant on the climate, from farming to skiing to maple syrup, and we need to do all we can to help lower our reliance on fossil fuels and set us up for success for years to come.
“I take no pleasure in having to override vetoed bills. The Governor and I have a respectful working relationship and we are able to find legislative compromises often. However, it is our responsibility as a legislative body to do what is right for our state and ensure that Vermonters have access to the programs and systems they rely on. Throughout the session we passed legislation that received support from Democrats, Republicans, Progressives and Independents, a strong indication of broad consensus. Passing legislation that affirms the voices of Vermonters — from across the state and across party lines — is incredibly important to our democratic process and is incredibly important to me personally.
“I remain committed to continuing to work with the Governor and his administration to make Vermont more affordable, healthier, and a place for working families and businesses to thrive.”
Statement from Gov. Scott on the Legislature’s veto overrides, which disproportionately harm rural Vermont
Montpelier, Vt. – Today, the Vermont Legislature voted to override the Governor on several bills, despite reasonable compromises being offered that would have made sure more parts of the state benefitted. Governor Phil Scott today issued the following statement in response:
“Today is a sad day for Vermonters who simply cannot afford further tax burdens and cost increases. Many will talk about these votes as a major loss for me, but it’s really a major loss for Vermont taxpayers, workers and families.
“Despite having an opportunity for commonsense – and more equitable, and affordable – compromises, the Legislature chose to override many consequential bills I vetoed on behalf of Vermonters.
“With their votes, they have not only decided to impose a historic double digit property tax increase this year but also added pressure on property taxes next year before even factoring in next year’s school budgets. Despite knowing about this since December 1, they have done nothing to prevent property taxes from increasing in the future.
“They also have imposed a renewable energy standard that will increase Vermonters’ electric bills by hundreds of millions of dollars over the next ten years.
“They have passed an expansion of Act 250 that will make it harder, and in some cases impossible, to build and restore homes and grow businesses in smaller, rural communities, pushing them even further behind.
“They have failed to meet the moment on housing, ignoring many tools to increase the availability and affordability of homes across the state, while specifically excluding three counties – Bennington, Grand Isle and Essex – from taking advantage of the property tax freeze to revitalize housing.
“And they have done all of this on top of the costs they added last year, including a 20% increase to DMV fees, a brand-new payroll tax effective July 1, and expected increases to home heating fuel as a result of the clean heat standard – all of which were also imposed over my vetoes.
“My team and I have spent this entire legislative session trying to keep costs down for Vermonters, while acting to make housing more affordable and more available, improving our education system for kids and taxpayers, and revitalizing communities so we can keep and attract the workers we desperately need. It is clear this Legislature, led by the super majority, has little interest in compromise, listening to their constituents, or taking a moderate approach on any issue.
“I will continue to fight on behalf of Vermonters in all corners of this state, but we need more balance in Montpelier, and lawmakers who will put people and communities over party politics.”
Vermont legislative Republicans call out Democrat majority for reckless veto overrides
Montpelier, VT—The Vermont Senate and House Republican Caucuses issued the following joint statement:
“When Vermonters elected us to the Legislature, they expected members of all parties to collaborate and work with both one another and Governor Scott,” said Senate Minority Leader Randy Brock (R-Franklin). “Unfortunately, the decision by the Democrat Majority to override the Governor’s vetoes on major pieces of legislation without any willingness to come to the negotiating table is not only a snub to those of us on the other side of the aisle, but an insult to all Vermonters who expect compromise and balance from their elected representatives.”
“In late 2023, Senate President Pro Temp Phil Baruth assured Vermonters that average property tax increases would be limited to 1.5 or 2 percent*,” added Rep. Pattie McCoy (R-Poultney). “Now, Vermonters will be facing a 13.8 percent average property tax increase, coupled with changes that will expand Act 250’s cumbersome rules in a way that worsens our housing affordability crisis. This is simply unacceptable.”
“On both the property tax bill, the Act 250/housing bill, and other pieces of legislation, the Governor laid out a clear path forward with simple fixes that could have easily been addressed by the majority party,” noted Senate Assistant Minority Leader Brian Collamore (R-Rutland). “We supported these common-sense changes that would have enabled us to achieve a more bipartisan result. Disappointingly, the Legislative Majority chose to ram through bad policy with no collaboration with the Governor or those of us on the other side of the aisle.”
“The decision to override the Governor’s vetoes won’t just haunt us in the Legislature,” concluded Rep. Casey Toof (R-St. Albans). “They will directly harm the farmer in Franklin who will be facing a nearly 14 percent property tax hike. Or the teacher in Bennington whose electric bills will skyrocket thanks to short-sighted energy changes. Or the prospective Vermonter who won’t be able to find affordable housing to make our state their home. Today, the Majority party let them down in the worst way possible. They deserved better.”
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Categories: Legislation, Press Release, State Government, Taxes
“I remain committed to continuing to work with the Governor and his administration to make Vermont more affordable, healthier, and a place for working families and businesses to thrive”
That’s the exact opposite of what VT is becoming….
RIP Vermont.
This is Vermont’s ” Stupid Majority ” front & center………… the cancer from within !!
Wake up people.
With regard to illegal drugs decimating Vt.: “It’s impossible to take away the pain & loss….” TRY CLOSING THE BORDER, EINSTEINS.
And “safe” injection sites, aside from being illegal on a federal level, worked so WELL out West, of COURSE u would do the exact same right here. Rhodes Scholars’ r they.
It shut be quit evident to all at this point. There is no compromise in any societal concern whether that be the COVID protocols, education, climate change policies and subjecting children to sex change operations in the name of gender affirming care. The state beurocrats steamroll over anyone who objects
Sadly we play into their hand every year, they are so vulnerable, because they are full of lies, but, honestly, we aren’t smart enough and they out “talk” us every time.
Want to know their weakness? People coming together in peace and love.
They don’t want fairness and equality; they want power and money.
Expose them is all we need to do. They are subverting the country, it’s the plan to which they WILL NOT VARY, hence the veto override.
1) They want money, correct?
Ask them to tax porn. They won’t do it, because they want porn to tear down the natural, scientific, evolution and God’s plan.
2) Want women to have equal pay?
They could do this, they have the supermajority, but they do nothing, call them out. No man wants his wife, daughter, being taken advantage of….they won’t do it..
Why? Because they don’t want the problem solved, they want division, they lie.
3) School funding.
They want complete control of the educational system, they could care less about the welfare of your child, they want them to be controlled by government schools and government oversight, this is the major step in subverting a country. We are creating depressed, envious, narcissistic, prideful, god hating Marxist, but I repeat myself.
Show how much each teacher, no names gets paid every year with all benefits, and retirement included. They won’t do it. For two reasons, teachers will find out how much they are getting bilked on benefits and the public will find the truth. Both parties will be quite upset with their puppet masters.
Abortion, zoning, environment, government operations, all this could be easily changed with just a little bit of sunlight. They want us fighting. They want us fighting at Thanksgiving dinner table. They do not under any circumstances want us working and talking together, as clearly evidenced by rampant censorship, cancel culture, lawsuits and complete control of propaganda press
We need to be wiser than snake and more innocent than doves, some are very clever and they are not innocent by any means. TGBTG
We all ‘want money’, Neil. Or at least some facsimile. There’s nothing wrong with wanting money. It’s the way our economic system quantifies the goods and services we provide and pay for. As Milton Friedman has clearly articulated, ‘… if an exchange between two parties is voluntary, it will not take place unless both believe they will benefit from it.’
Our problem is that our transactions with the government-controlled systems of healthcare, education, public utilities (i.e., energy), and in fact, the government itself, are not voluntary. They are the epitome of tyranny by the majority. ‘Two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
In other words, these institutions break every anti-trust law on the books. They’re monopolies. That, and that alone, is the problem. Eliminate the monopolies and let the free market work itself out. Again, consider Friedman’s citations.
“The great virtue of a free-market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another.”
Otherwise, we fall prey to the dark side of human nature. Read about the infamous Milgram Experiments of the 1960s. History is repeating itself.
They use the Saul Alinsky playbook to shut you down. If you say “tax porn” they will act shocked and horrified that anyone would even discuss that topic in public. They become Victorian moralists and will ostracize you for bad taste. They are doing exactly that in schools where pornographic books are placed in the library but reading from that book in a school meeting is banned on the grounds of obscenity.
They do that with everything. “Hold your opponents to their rules but don’t hold yourself to any”.
They know their weakness though. Ridicule, acceleration and irrelevance. In Soviet times ridicule showed that the populace was no longer afraid of government. Today, in the US – we are still afraid to criticize them because if we do, the full weight of the Media and government will be used to destroy you.
Acceleration is the other approach. Use their rules against them. For instance the recent change to the military draft does not apply to women and trans men. Isn’t this illegal? It does apply to trans women ( those born male will be automatically registered). Are not trans women, women?
In an acceleration scenario we would insist that women are drafted in the same way as men, that women must make up 50% of frontline forces before any male is deployed. Alternatively we would insist that trans women are treated as real women and then mass identify as women. Or we could argue that, If men and women are equal in every respect, and if outcome differences are the result of discrimination only, then surely it is our duty to hold off on male recruitment until this discriminatory stain is removed and absolute numerical equality is achieved.
Unfortunately even here they have an advantage. They use their institutional power to stifle it. There has been a law suit demanding something close to this on the Supreme Court docket for years but politicians on both sides “ask” the court to delay an opinion as they are “about to” change the rules. They never get around to it though.
The other approach, and really the only approach left, is to ignore all of it. Don’t engage with government or politicians. Don’t provide them with services, don’t fill in their census forms, don’t feed them. In short, a boycott. That takes coordination, however and coordination is extremely difficult when social spaces have anlready been infiltrated or destroyed.
In the end, let it burn down. Step back and wait.
Re: “The other approach, and really the only approach left, is to ignore all of it. Don’t engage with government or politicians. Don’t provide them with services, don’t fill in their census forms, don’t feed them. In short, a boycott. That takes coordination, however and coordination is extremely difficult when social spaces have anlready been infiltrated or destroyed. – In the end, let it burn down. Step back and wait.”
Don’t ‘ignore all of it’. In order to not engage, we must watch it (them) carefully. But otherwise, your ‘approach’ is spot on. ‘It’ will ‘burn down’. And those who have been careful can resurrect our constitutional republic phoenix-like from the ashes.
Here is one article on Milgram Experiments.
https://www.verywellmind.com/the-milgram-obedience-experiment-2795243
So, wanting money and needing money, wanting money and being content with what you have been given, these topics are discussed regularly in some circles. You should not be so poor as to steal and not be so rich as to think to highly of oneself, the amount varies by the person and the level of pride/lack of understanding in how the world works. We don’t have these discussions on a regular basis.
No, we have discussions on a regular basis of have’s and have not’s and that we must take from the haves by any means necessary. Clearly, even without reading a good book, we might glean how this could be a defective long term societal strategy. But there is a push for people to revel in envy, that it is acceptable and right, just even to wallow in this, but historically our country shunned envy. Thou shall not envy they neighbors ox…..today could be don’t be jealous of your neighbors BMW. Does it really get you to work any faster, safer?
What you’ll find in the experiment is they got more compliance with people if they Identified with a certain group, etc. Here’s where if you identify as a child of God, and understand abit, you would respond in a considerably different way.
VTRocks, has some great insight too. The Book of Kings talks about how governments fail on a regular basis. Everything stated is true…but there is another way to turn things around in short order, just changing one’s direction, orientation as it were, and things can happen quickly. It’s been done in our nations and nations past, the president of El Salvador has done this with his people. In three years, they went from the highest murder rate in the world, to the lowest in the Western Hemisphere. The first point in his three-point plan upon reelection? Follow the wisdom of God.
Alinsky/Marx have an idol, it’s in the cover story of their handbook. It is based upon deception, division and destruction.
There is an easy counter, one more effective, more efficient than anything they could possibly do, they are in fact on the losing side of history. There are no laws against it and every tyrannical leader, every theocratic country, every global power zealot knows they have no power against it, they do know Roman history.
Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, Goodness, Meekness and Self-Control…….there are no laws against these. There is but one path, it’s narrow. What side shall we mingle with? The results seldom vary, unlike stock picks.
Neil,
Everything you say is correct, we need God. But we have strayed so far that the road back to God is long and difficult.
In another chat board – where many young people comment – I was shocked to learn that many believed that Soviet communism was supportive of the Christian faith. In fact, they were so convinced of this that no amount of arguing would shake them.
It is almost impossible to bring up Christianity in public today. This religion, and only this one, has been branded as uniquely evil because “Christians don’t live up to their ideals”. It is insane that Christianity is blamed for “sinking Western Civilization into superstition”. It is supposedly responsible for slavery (but not the abolition of slavery). It has caused every war in history (but never the technological advances that war produces). And it is hateful to women (while almost every other religion on earth is downright abusive towards women).
If you try to refute any of these point by comparing Christianity to any other religion, you are accused of disrespecting other cultures. Because religion is a central part of every culture on earth except Western culture.
I hope you are friendly and supportive of other men. It is essential that young men feel they belong. They have been targeted and vilified and excluded for too long. Their natural exuberance has been termed a medical abnormality to justify drugging them with mind numbing pharma products. Their normal urges and competitive behaviors are called “rape culture”. Friendship between men is termed “gay”. Their work styles have been deemed toxic and their social spaces are invaded and subverted. They are told that they – individually – are responsible for the sins of others. No other group has to put up with this.
They have been abused for decades. And now that they are stepping out of society – and economic participation stats, marriage rates and social engagement measures all show this is true – they are hit with “what’s your problem?”
What countries outlaw the Bible?
Why would any entity/person/org hate Jesus?
What would be the purpose to go against Christian faith?
Why are other faiths acceptable?
Christianity gets a bad rap, because it’s more scribes and pharisee, vs overflowing with the Holy Spirit.
Christ didn’t come to judge the world, (which most “christians” are highly guilty of), he came to heal, to forgive.
They are perverting the meaning of love with lust.
Why would their rival enemy be a man who follows the way? Who follows Christ, who is indwelled with the Holy Spirit? No woman needs fear a true Christian man, no a Chistian couple can experience a bit of heaven on earth, as intended. They don’t want to experience that, and they certainly don’t want that to spread to others, by no means.
And this is why they assault young boys, mentally, physically, spiritually at young ages, saying young Vermont boys are the scourge of the world, racist, you name the phobic, because if they grow up to be followers of Christ the jig is up. Strong, happy, functional families that can discern truth from lies, make make poor nwo slaves and pimps, which is why slave holders didn’t want their slaves to read, and why the early churches pushed to bring education of the Bible and reading to all Americans.
They want us to be slaves of sin and slaves to sin. God wants us Holy and Blessed, free from the slavery of sin.
It’s a remarkably different life.
TGBTG……
If you read the bible, who knew Jesus well? Who was terrified of him?
What souls were most affected?
This gives us some idea of whom we are dealing with. We should have compassion, in words and deeds toward those who are filled with an unhelpful spirit. That is the first step in bringing about change. Fear not, fear not, were common words, after all he’s go the whole world in his hands…:)
Not that Scott shares many conservative ideas (because he doesn’t), however one might ask (if you are a voting citizen in Vermont) what is the purpose of having a Governor ? When Vermont legislation (house and Senate) is so top heavy that only one group gets represented, what is the point of a conservative or a libertarian going to the polls to vote for someone to represent them in Montpelier ? What is the point of having an Executive branch ? He (Scott) speaks pretty words, even vetos bad legislation ; but the democratic/progressive agenda steamrolls over Vermont like tyrants.
LOL! Can someone tell me where they hide the printing presses for all the funny money they’re gonna need to destroy this state?
Wow this state is circling the drain. I think I’m gonna go swipe one of Emma’s free meals off her porch now.
the funny money is called bonding/// they are not the federal reserve funny money system/// the only recourse is debt instruments//// remember, the state will not allow a bond default//// you taxpayers are on the hook for all the bond payments in this state//// every town is bonding debt//// low income housing, public private partners/// nothing to see folks, just move on and enjoy the coming pain/// we are vermont broke/////////
Does the hubris of this crowd emanate from the fact that in my little Vermont town of just 500 voters, an electronic voting machine was present in 2022. Their is not any reason why in such a small town the cost of said machine and the maintenance and upkeep are justifiable, unless of course it was put there for a reason.
Just asking for a friend?
If you think that there is NO WAY they could cheat. I ask you to read an affidavit that is currently part of a case in front of the supreme court.
https://ia601709.us.archive.org/28/items/gov.uscourts.wied.92717/gov.uscourts.wied.92717.1.21.pdf
Paper Ballots, Voter ID’s and Voting in person on election day!
Your voting machine is, more than likely, a ‘tabulator’… a ‘scanner’. You mark your ballot, scan it through the machine, and it tabulates the vote count. If there are any concerns, you still have the paper ballot and can ask for a by-hand recount. No big deal.
But ask your Town Clerk’s office to explain how they verify that the signatures on the envelopes of the mail-in ballots they receive are legitimate.
Do they have a drop box at the town hall? In my district the ‘drop box’ is the mail slot in the front door of the town hall. Interestingly, the VT Sec. of State has determined that as long as the drop box is within view of the town hall, no security cameras are required.
Lastly, ask your town clerk if they received any ‘Zuckerbucks’ in 2022. In my small town of Westminster, we received more than one dollar from Zuckerberg’s non-profit NGO for every registered voter in town, with the stipulation that the money be used to ‘facilitate’ the voting process – that same process described above.
So, when someone claims the election was rigged, and the next person says that’s a false claim because there’s no proof of ‘election fraud’, ask yourself – with the system described above, how can anyone prove the election was legitimate or fraudulent?
We can have all the poll watchers we want in Vermont. But what are they watching?
In a word, it’s prescribed ‘chaos’. In the final analysis, the majority of Vermonters don’t really care to consider the details. Why bother?
A true democracy makes it easy for the elderly, infirmed, and those without transportation to vote.
Re: “A true democracy makes it easy for the elderly, infirmed, and those without transportation to vote.”
By ‘true democracy’ I assume you mean a ‘direct democracy’, as opposed to a ‘constitutional republic’, as is the United States.
“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never.”
– John Adams, 2nd President of the U.S.
It is, after all, not the ‘ease’ of voting that carries importance, but rather what it is one votes for that makes all the difference.
One of the major propaganda tricks is to make people believe that the intent of our founders was to give us a “democracy” of which they wanted to avoid like the plague it truly is.
We are a republic, or at least the intent was for us to be a republic. Most 80% don’t know the difference and why there is one, and here we are because of it.
@briancostellovt Well, as mentioned, not a democracy, never mind a “true,” one. That being said, there’s a big difference between aiding those truly unable to attend a vote with a serious chain of custody ballot, and mailing out hundreds of thousands of ballots willy-nilly with absolutely zero chain of custody. The latter is one of the primary methods the establishment / left uses to cheat, here and in every other mail-in state.
Yes, Wally.
Jay, why do the “tabulators” have printers in them (black ink)?
Is the machines’ software publicly accessible, or private and proprietary?
Is software kept up to date with appropriate security protocols?
Who signs off on the validity of election results at the local, state, and national levels?
Are the machines air-gapped, or are they internet-accessible?
How difficult is it to hack into these machines/systems?
Are voting results routed overseas before being reported?
Are election databases purged of ghost voters?
Are all counted ballots printed by the approved vendor?
How long do election officials in contested jurisdictions take to comply with subpoenas for physical ballots for recounts? Why?
In a contested election, which side bears the burden of incontrovertible proof?
I recently attended a public screening of David Clements’ “Let My People Go”. (You can only see it on Rumble, as distributors and DVD printers were threatened and de-banked. For some reason.) It runs long, and is a bit tedious, but if you stick to the sections that break down the claims of election integrity vs. the realities as explained by experts in computers and statistics, you might arrive at some very disturbing conclusions.
Having become aware of machine-based election integrity issues since hearing Steven Spoonamore describe the man in the middle attack that propelled Bush to “victory” in 2004 (Ohio), and having followed this issue since 2016, it is my belief that until you get rid of RESULTS from the machines (you don’t have the jurisdiction to get rid of the machines themselves, yet), all talk about “voting the bums out” is a fool’s errand.
The fix is in and they know it. Will you accept the challenge and responsibility to witness the evidence presented, judge the merits, and, if you deem it necessary, take appropriate action?
https://rumble.com/v4l6byc-let-my-people-go-by-dr.-david-clements.html
Yes, ballot harvesting is a problem. But when vote totals can be flipped with a quick command on a computer, it’s academic.
And no to out of state student voting in Vermont. Most of the liberal little turds here for college are from blue states. Why do you think the progressives want them to vote. As Rush Limbaugh used to call them “young skulls full of mush”. They are indoctrinated by the schools and vote accordingly. It is probably unconstitutional, but Vermont has few conservative attorneys. Other states take their issues to court, VT does nothing. Especially the republicans and Phil Scott who has been trying to be the nice guy with all his legislative buddies from 20 years together as they kick him around like a soccer ball. All of a sudden, he’s concerned. Vermont voters are a mass of ignorance and the state is full of corruption of the fullest and the voters keep voting for it. The old statement is true here, you just can’t fix stupid!
Re: Jay, why do the “tabulators” have printers in them (black ink)?
Tyler, I don’t think the ‘tabulators’, in my town, have ink in them, except perhaps, to print out the tabulation results. And, again, if there is ever a question, the actual ballot filled out in the voting booth or collected from the mail-in envelope can be hand counted. I’ll ask our town clerk this question.
Would it surprise me that these ballot tabulator/scanners could create a fictitious replacement ballot with a pre-programmed winner and loser? Well, I’m no longer sure of anything anymore – except the fact that in Vermont we have a progressive super-majority hell-bent on telling everyone how they should live and, whether they know it or not, bankrupting us in the process
Postscript: Tyler
If one of these tabulators/scanners could create a counterfeit ballot, it would create a risk I don’t think even the craftiest political hack would accept. When filling in the box in front of a candidate’s name, the fill-in isn’t a perfect graphic representation of someone marking the box manually with a #2 pencil or a magic marker. It wouldn’t take much inspection to figure out that a counterfeit ballot existed because all of the boxes in a bunch of the ballots would be filled out in precisely the same fashion. I’m not saying these fools wouldn’t try it. But even I could catch them doing it that way.
Jay-
They’ve done it and been caught, in GA and AZ, to name a few. With the same six (top of ticket) races filled in. No down ballot races marked. And it is likely the case in MI as well, with the 3:30 AM Election Night (morning) delivery in the white van caught on video at the Detroit sports complex. But the Guvner, AG and SOS there are a rock solid coven, so forensics are even harder to do there. And there’s the sworn testimony of the USPS driver who delivered a huge truckful of filled in ballots for NY into PA. They do it allright. They just count on not being caught. And the system is nation-wide. World-wide.
Tyler, I get it. But I can’t speak to other State election processes, except to note the various articles alleging voter fraud.
E.G., Jun. 17, 2024: “320,000 GHOST VOTERS Identified in MUST-WIN State of Michigan”
FYI – I’ve asked our town clerk to address your concerns with the ‘tabulators/scanners’. I’ve actually requested a demonstration of how the machines work.
One thing is certain, Vermont liberals detest math and Vermont conservatives are complicit and equally liable.
VT Digger January 18, 2024: “Despite last year’s hand-wringing over an anticipated downturn of Vermont’s economy, one year later, state economists on Thursday were notably optimistic about where the state’s finances stand.
“We have no recession in the forecast,” economic adviser Jeff Carr told a panel of high-ranking lawmakers Thursday.
“Thank you for saying that so bluntly,” House Ways and Means Chair Emilie Kornheiser, D-Brattleboro, replied.”
You see why the super-majority took that ball of dung and ran with it. At that point, Operation Tincup was full steam ahead. Can anyone testify that in light of a 13% property tax increase, did your income increase more than 3% in the past year? At the rate of inflation since 2021, is your current income able to withstand all of the increases of taxes and fees our malevolent, immoral Legislature passed this year and last year?
I once thought Jeff Carr was a level-headed, ethical economist. Yet, I see he is the President and Senior Economist for EPR Economic & Policy Research. What do they do? According to their website, one of their services is this: “The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service relies on a complex blend of regulation and policy in reviewing the compliance of your EB-5 application. We also do Regional Center Geographic & Amendment Studies and Regional Center Business & Operations Plans. Call us to see how we can help. With over 50 years of collective professional experience, Economic & Policy Resources has the knowledge and expertise to guide you through the EB-5 maze.” I bet they do have “knowledge and expertise” as well as oodles of foreign money to play with and State/Federal bureaucrats/politicians in their contact lists to run cover and defense perhaps? Collusion and conspiracy to commit fraud – it is how Vermont is run afterall.
The stark contrast between real economists and the bought and paid for ones in Vermont is coming to fruition now. Regardless of lies being told and sold, the casualties continue to mount each passing day and now accelerating. Brace for impact.
Again, we’re falling prey to the dark side of human nature. Read about the infamous Milgram Experiments of the 1960s. History is repeating itself. Knowing this should give any reasonable person the advantage of figuring out how to cope with the inevitable conflict. And make no mistake. Conflict IS inevitable.
On WCAX it mentions the Senate was short of an override on the safe injection sites bill, but “Republican” Senator Richard Westman asked for reconsideration and voted to override. Clearly, Westman needs to be voted out.
Know the structure of your Government
You can only self govern, if you maintain that structure of governance that allows it!
Today, almost 250 years after our founding, we are still unable to come to any degree of consensus, about how our system of self government is structured to function.
Who can say for sure, is the United Sates, a Republic, a Democracy, or a combination of both?
It is said our founding fathers were attempting to avoid the absolute rule of a Monarchy, and the pitfalls of a Democracy. Some feared Democracy could lead to mob rule by a voting majority, and thus, enable a propensity toward disregarding the rights of the minority.
Wishing to avoid the downfalls of both absolute & majority rule, our forefathers conceived a hybrid form of government by establishing a Democratic Republic.
In theory the people would now self govern, using a system structured to maintain a certain degree of integrity, by taking Democracy and tempering it with the protections of a Republic.
Would it be easy to balance the desires of a collective group, while simultaneously guaranteeing individual sovereignty, probably not, but the desire for liberty was exceedingly strong at that point in our history.
As the story goes, upon leaving the Constitutional Convention, Ben Franklin was asked the question, what have we got, a Republic or a Monarchy?
He replied, ”a Republic if you can keep it”.
Today, most people think of our form of government as a Democracy, with only a small percentage understanding how important the principles of our Republic are, for maintaining the structure our forefathers envisioned.
Did Ben Franklin accurately surmise we would trend more toward Democracy in the future, eroding the protections our Republic provides in the process, probably so.
It is indeed a balancing act to maintain such a system, so we must be watchful for manufactured political subdivisions of government that can creep in and alter the balance and structure of our governance enough to deplete its integrity.
Synthetically created subdivisions of government, when added into the mix with necessary government institutions, can confuse the legitimate authority of our governance.
While these subdivisions try justifying their existence as municipal advocacy, for the most part their purpose is to influence & facilitate agendas. But who’s agendas?
Government manipulating organizations (GMO) may appear benevolent at a glance, but make no mistake they can be extremely disruptive to the organic balance of our system of government, upsetting the delicate structure, that is crucial for sustaining Liberty.
But, Vermonters may not notice a shift toward imbalance, having been conditioned since the late 1960’s by a system of advocacy for central planning & development, a system administered largely through a concept of municipal zoning regulation.
Over time, exposure to this structure of zoning, has slowly relaxed our grip on the ideals of protecting individual rights & sovereignty, making us more willing to accept top down government without ever questioning the process. But, understand, the greater good does not usually compensate for the loss of personal liberty, especially when it is cumulative over a period of time.
Much has changed structurally since our founding, however even if you look closely you may not see the closed structure of control camouflaged in plain sight as advocacy, and working in parallel with our government as consultants for planning & development. Some of these synthetic political subdivisions were installed over 50 years ago and are now deeply embedded, and busy monopolizing our agendas.
You may have noticed, sometimes you are solicited for things you would like to see in your community. But it is not necessarily the will of the people as a whole that wants your suggestion. Rather it is a tactic used to match your ideas with behavioral goals already desired by central planners.
So when regional planning goals, get a match with one of these ideas, more than likely that idea was put forward by a local committee or commission, and portrayed as something you as a community wanted to achieve. The next thing that usually happens is a grant is triggered to make us believe we are getting something for nothing. Then if there are still those that object they are each given two minutes at a public hearing, which is to say sit down and shut up.
We are governed by bureaucrats, committees and commissions__ its called top down government!
Currently municipal plans are updated every eight years, but keep in mind local zoning commissions can cut and paste regulations already adopted in other towns, at any time.
Are you curious about the lack of positive results from so many years of planning assistance?
Are influence peddlers doing more harm than good?
It might surprise you to know two forms of government can exist in parallel, pretending to be one in the same. However, eventually the one you think you have, becomes only a memory, and the one you actually endure, is what you are left with.
It appears Ben Franklin was correct, we could not keep our Republic after all.
The question is, how much of it is still functional?
It would appear the Democratic element of our hybrid form of government has been influenced to create legalese that blends in theory with our founding principles, yet frustrates the peoples will, and their ability to afford litigation to protect their sovereignty.
Today we have a blended coalition governing us. It consists of Corporations both public and private as well as for-profit and non-profit organizations.
Working in partnership with our government their boundaries are blurred and their agendas heavily lobbied for. Such is our dilemma!
These aren’t legislation or lawmakers, these people are dictators without a doubt. They refuse to listen to the people and act with reckless abandon to further their political agenda.
This excellent documentary explains their political agenda quite well, which is the implementation of a new political, social and economic system akin to state capitalism or shareholder capitalism, and the death of shareholder capitalism.
https://x.com/YellowForum/status/1784218590901584280
“I take no pleasure in having to override vetoed bills.”
Excuse me? It’s what you live for.
This is no longer about politics, ideology, even phony ideologies such as ‘equality.’ It’s a matter of jealousy (of property owners?), personal resentment, hatred, pettiness and anger: anger at God, I suppose, which is misdirected at the vulnerable.