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Rodgers talks school consolidation, exporting pain, and ‘something dead’ on the office wall

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John Rodgers, Vermont’s plain-speaking lieutenant governor, sat down for an interview this week with VDC Social Media Director Paul Bean in his new office at the Vermont State House.

In a wide-ranging conversation, the Glover born-and-raised farmer and builder said Vermont probably won’t need to build new school buildings but may need to close some schools and consolidate them into larger existing buildings to reduce the property tax burden. He says Vermont’s push for renewables merely exports our own pain, inflicting it on the rest of the world. And he describes the history of the dead animal hanging on his office wall.


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  1. The ‘disconnects’:

    What about CO2, Paul? That’s the first ‘disconnect’. Why didn’t you and the Lt. Governor address the primary issue driving the so-called ‘green movement’. Why is a carbon neutral policy critical to ‘saving the planet’? If you two are ‘looking at the science’, why didn’t you explain the science?

    Disconnect #2: School Choice. Again, not a word about Vermont’s popular, fiscally efficient, and academically successful School Choice ‘tuitioning’ program and the proposed H.405 School Choice bill languishing in the House Education Committee. If you truly believe in the entrepreneurial, free-market spirit, why didn’t you consider School Choice as an educational free-market?

    • The disconnect is Marxist thought, to which they may not even be cognizant they have it. Paul is not old enough to know that for 60 years the world has been going to end in the next 8 years….it’s the oldest fear mongering on the planet, it’s been going on since civilization began.

      If you turn on your marxist brain section everything makes perfect sense, just not with reality but in perfect alignment with the real climate change, the political climate.

    • Marxist thought, schmarkist thought.

      The disconnect is that no one wants to discuss the tangible next steps required to get us back on track to a free-market economy.

      Repeal the Clean Heat Standard and pass the H.405 School Choice Act.

    • Dude, free market????……you think that works for a Marxist? It’s Greek to them.

      They would NEVER consider the thought; it would be no different than them praising Jesus. They are diametrically opposed to everything you offer; it’s like offering sobriety to a drug addict, not going to happen.

      We need to hang out with a better crowd, cause they aren’t going to change. Brush the dust of your sandals and keep walking.

      Your ideas work, which is why they won’t accept them, it would collapse their false economy, by which they fill their pockets and know well you speak the truth.

    • Re: “They would NEVER consider the thought; it would be no different than them praising Jesus.”

      Dude? Really?

      Neil, yours is a perspective that creates a deadlock as well as any. Praising Jesus has nothing to do with free markets. Free markets work for Atheists as well as Christians (including Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Episcopalians, and Congregationalists), and for Muslims, and Buddhists, and Sikhs, and Hindus, and any other religion one can imagine. And it works for drug addicts and drag queens too. It works for everyone!

      But if you continually try to push your own religious dogma on others as a free market qualification, you defeat the free market concept from the get-go. Again, your religious perspective is as contrary to a free market as is the Marxist dogma. Free means ‘FREE’!

      If anyone believes otherwise, let’s have that conversation.

      As I try to discuss the free market economic system with folks, be it applied to healthcare, education, limited government or what-have-you, it becomes abundantly clear to me that most people don’t understand what a true free market is, especially in the context of the U.S. Constitution, the most elegant ‘free market’ governance ever contrived by humans.

    • True about the free market, no doubt. My reason for bringing up Jesus, was only to point out it will never be uttered, just like a marxist will never utter or want free market, because their philosophy is the government should control entire market.

      Peace……brother, peace.

      People are free to choose whatever path they desire, some have never been introduced to a certain way, so they can’t make an informed decision….to their detriment.

  2. Hey Paul Bean Great interview with Lt gov
    John Rodgers, but the volume was poor !!
    Get-R-Done Patriots Get-R-Done 🇺🇸
    Like allways that Vermonter
    Bert Saldi

  3. Progress in Vermont is measured by removing the tampons and raising the mounted head of a dead stag. Symbolic and prophetic. Does the buck stop there or just stare into the abyss with it’s glazed over glass eyes? I can relate nonetheless.

    • I think that is called smoke and mirrors. That buck doesn’t even have glazed eyes for viewing the abyss, but Vermonters don’t need to see, they can feel it.

  4. School consolidation was proposed in Woodstock a year ago.
    Look how that turned out. (Which is the way it should have).

  5. No Dark Maga hat.
    No discussion of the 10 people who control entire agenda.

  6. Where is the Republican Scorecard tallying how much money they’ve cut in spending?

    This should be a weekly updated scorecard.

    How about some accountability and transparency?

    • like that is ever going to happen in this state? No, we’ll have only press releases about how much money we are going to spend on new programs and call it progress. Because spending more money will solve all our problems.