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By Paul Bean
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) called on Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. to step down from his role in an opinion piece published in the New York Times on Sunday.
“Against the overwhelming body of evidence within the medicine and science, what are Secretary Kennedy’s views?,” wrote Sanders. “He has claimed that autism is caused by vaccines, despite more than a dozen rigorous scientific studies involving hundreds of thousands of children that have found no connection between vaccines and autism.”
In his NYT article Sanders also referred to Kennedy as an advocate of conspiracy theories writing, “Despite the overwhelming opposition of the medical community, secretary Kennedy has continued his longstanding crusade against vaccines and his advocacy of conspiracy theories that have been rejected repeatedly by scientific experts.”
This is an on-going battle between Bernie Sanders and RFK Jr.. During a Senate confirmation hearing for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination as Health and Human Services Secretary on January 29, 2025, Kennedy accused Senator Bernie Sanders of accepting $1.5 million from the pharmaceutical industry in 2020, sparking a memorable exchange.
Sanders denied taking corporate PAC money, insisting the contributions came from workers, not executives, and emphasized his $200 million in total campaign funds.
On Monday Sen. Sanders, publicly defended the success of ‘Operation Warp Speed’ and rollout COVID-19 vaccines, opposing recent skepticism expressed by former President Donald Trump in regards to the health, safety, and efficacy of the shots.
“It is very important that the Drug Companies justify the success of their various Covid Drugs. Many people think they are a miracle that saved millions of lives. Others disagree!” wrote President Trump on his social media platform Truth Social.
“With CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer, and I want it NOW,” he continued. “I have been shown information from Pfizer, and others, that is extraordinary, but they never seem to show those results to the public. Why not??? They go off to the next “hunt” and let everyone rip themselves apart, including Bobby Kennedy Jr… I want them to show them NOW, to CDC and the public, and clear up this MESS, one way or the other!!! I hope OPERATION WARP SPEED was as “BRILLIANT” as many say it was. If not, we all want to know about it, and why???”
In response to President Trump’s skepticism, Sanders praised the initiative, stating, “Mr. Trump: You were right about the success of Operation Warp Speed & the COVID vaccine when you said that it saved ‘tens of millions of lives.’ Vaccines have also helped eliminate polio, measles & smallpox. Don’t backtrack. Stick with the scientists, not conspiracy theorists.”
A 2023 peer-reviewed study published in The Lancet estimated that COVID-19 vaccines prevented 14.4 million deaths globally during their first year of distribution.
Emerging data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges rare instances of myocarditis and pericarditis linked to mRNA vaccines, with an incidence rate of approximately 1-5 cases per 100,000 doses, particularly among young males.
Sanders’ NYT opinion piece also argues that Sec. Kennedy’s supporters are “not credible scientists and doctors.”
“Many of his supporters are from Children’s Health Defense — the anti-vaccine group he founded and profited from — and a small circle of loyalists that have spread misinformation and dangerous conspiracy theories on vaccines for years,” Sanders continued. “The reality is that Secretary Kennedy has profited from and built a career on sowing mistrust in vaccines. Now, as head of HHS, he is using his authority to launch a full-blown war on science, on public health and on truth itself.”
You may remember during Kennedy’s appointment hearings, Sanders showed lawmakers photos of two baby onesies with the words, ‘No Vax, No Problem’ and ‘Unvaxxed, Unafraid.’ He then urged Kennedy to agree that he was not against vaccines and he would take the items of clothing off the market.
Back in April (2025), Children’s Health Defense President and CEO Mary Holland visited Vermont and VDC had the opportunity to ask her some questions about Sanders and his relationship with pharma, and why she believes Sanders is so anti- RFK Jr:
Bean: “Bernie has been kind of seen as this anti-establishment anti- big pharma character for a really long time. I’m sure many people in this room believed that he was, myself included. I was kind of a Bernie bro growing up. Are there conversations with anyone in RFK’s team and Bernie Sanders?…I think a lot of the stuff that I’ve seen Bernie talking about, he may appear as if he’s aligned with MAHA, I just wanted to give you maybe an opportunity to talk on that.”
Holland: “No I mean I was in the room for the confirmation hearing…all he seemed to want to talk about was universal healthcare for all. ‘It’s a federal right,’ not talking at all about what that means and what kind of health care might it be? And would that really serve health? Or just pharma, frankly?”
Holland also gave context on the type of healthcare Senator Sanders might be representing considering money his campaign has received over the years:
Holland: “When Bernie was attacking Bobby on the onesies thing, Bobby got a moment at the end where he did call out Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, saying ‘you know you’ve taken millions of dollars from pharma’ and Bernie was very defensive and said ‘well it was 2 million out of a hundred million,’ and we’re like okay does that make it better? Amusing actually. You kind of had to hold back laughter. ‘I think he has this image that national health care like in the UK or in France is the answer. Sadly, now working really closely with people in the UK and France and other countries with national health systems, I wish that were the answer, It’s not. I’m not saying the people should be deprived of healthcare. Please don’t get me wrong. But just saying ‘okay let’s just give pharma more discretion, Let’s give them more resources,’ I think we have to be incredibly wary about that, given what we’ve seen so far.”
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I think if a vote were taken, the vast majority would prefer Bernie resign instead of RFK jr
Make sure you make the right choice when get in line for your next COVID KILL SHOT. Comment from Richard Day.
Every time there is a “Bernie says” story, all I can think of is that classic meme (think it might be from The Simpsons) “Old man yells at clouds”.
Just what rigorous scientific studies are you referring Bernie, concerning Autism coming from vaccines ? Are you referring to the companies who make the vaccines doing the study? Are you referring to the scientist who are on Big Pharma ‘s payroll ? How much $$$ will you stand to loose Bernie from Big Pharma, if Kennedy is successful ?
The independent studies, are conflicting with your banter Bernie ❗ Their are plenty of countries who have already connected the dots, against the fraudulent Big Pharma studies. That is like a fox doing a study on how to keep chickens safe. We need you Bernie to step down ❗ It is time Vermont has a senator with a voice of reason, and displays common sense.
Of course Bernie want him to resign, for pointing out corruption and self dealing the CDC and FDA with backdoor deals and future personal promises from the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex. There is a revolving door between those agencies and the industry, with pockets being lined for lax oversight. Did Bernie make any money off of the COVID industry? Paying off houses, another sports car maybe? All Democrats will call for RFK Jr resignation for being a turn coat and going with Trump Administration
Who is paying off Bernie?
According to Snopes: The contributions to Bernie Sanders, cited by RFK Jr,, referred to the industry in which individual donors were employed. It did not refer to funds originating from, or directed by, pharmaceutical companies.
Oh. So Bernie doesn’t have a conflict of interest with big pharma, just with those employed by big pharma? Tsk. Tsk.
Again, according to Snopes: In the 2019-20 Congressional funding cycle, Sanders received more money from people employed in the field classified by OpenSecrets as “pharmaceuticals/health products” ($1.4 million) than any other member of Congress. He also received roughly $400,000 from people employed in “pharmaceutical manufacturing.”
Who should resign, Bernie?
Isn’t RFK the guy who put out a MAHA report with invented studies? Sounds credible to me.
The “Make America Healthy Again” report by RFK Jr. was corrected. Following the discovery of seven citations referencing studies that could not be identified, RFK Jr. updated the report. Initially, the report contained 522 citations, again, with only seven studies that could not be identified. The corrected report was released shortly after the erroneous findings were publicized.
Some would say that’s what accountability looks like.
Jay, this has to be the most hilarious post you’ve done! Probably not quite as hilarious as you figuring out a word salad that can justify the government ownership in Intel as not being a step toward socialism. I think Trump is taking a page from Bernie’s playbook, eh? Big ol’ federal government ownership! Here we come! The slow creep has gained momentum! What’s next? A stake in Amazon? Apple? Defense contractors? I bet you can’t wait!
What?
I get a kick out of you justifying the skullduggery that is this administration, such as your post saying it’s no big deal that Kennedy invented sources that are not real. And I would love to hear how you justify the purchase of Intel as not being the first step toward socialism. It’s clear you’re not a fan of socialism. It’s clear you’ll bend over backwards for trump. So now that trump is acting like a socialist, I’m wondering how you feel about it.
Re: Intel Corp.
In economic and political theory, “ownership of the means of production” refers to control over the resources, facilities, and infrastructure used to produce goods and services (e.g., factories, machinery, technology). In Marxist theory, this concept is central to socialism, where the state or collective owns these means to prioritize public welfare over private profit. Full government ownership implies direct control over operations, decision-making, and resource allocation, as seen in nationalized industries. Partial ownership, like a minority equity stake, is less clear-cut and depends on the degree of influence exerted.
The U.S. government acquired a 9.9% stake (433.3 million shares at $20.47 each) in Intel, making it a significant but minority shareholder. The agreement explicitly states that the government has no board representation or governance rights, indicating a passive investment rather than active control.
The deal includes a five-year warrant for an additional 5% of shares if Intel reduces ownership of its foundry business below 51%, suggesting conditional influence but not direct operational control.
This contrasts with full ownership or nationalization, where the government would control Intel’s factories, R&D, and strategic decisions.
The U.S. government’s 10% equity stake in Intel, finalized in August 2025, does not constitute government ownership of the means of production in the traditional sense. It is a minority, passive investment without operational control, focused on strategic goals like strengthening U.S. semiconductor production and national security.
I understand this all seems like a ‘word salad’ to you. But if you read carefully, and think about it, even you should be able to understand the difference between the Intel deal and Marxism
Re: “your post saying it’s no big deal that Kennedy invented sources that are not real.”
I didn’t say that, Nick. What I said was that RFK Jr. corrected the errors in the MAHA report. And FYI, he did so within one week of the disclosures.
As with so much of what you post here, Nick, you misrepresent virtually everything you address (including the Intel deal). And, as I’ve said many times in the past, I respond simply to correct your misinformed/disingenuous record.
Dude, spin it however you want. The power of denial is tough to overcome. The administration has positioned itself to use its ownership in nefarious way. If the business doesn’t do what trump wants, he could withdraw his investment. (Or is it ‘our’ investment that he’s in charge of?) This investment is a power move. More presidential powers. Just think about the free market where trump invests government money in some companies, but not all companies. I presume he’ll be totally unbiased toward those companies and will refrain from favoritism.
Jay, regarding “The U.S. government’s 10% equity stake in Intel, finalized in August 2025, does not constitute government ownership of the means of production in the traditional sense. It is a minority, passive investment without operational control, focused on strategic goals like strengthening U.S. semiconductor production and national security.” Could you explain how ownership of a company that produces a product doesn’t constitute ‘owning the means of production?’ I love how you throw in the phrase ‘traditional sense’ as your modifier to separate socialism from what trump is doing. That’s all you got? That logic is as foolish as inventing scientific studies and putting them in a national health report to bolster an argument. I’m beginning to wonder: Robert Ludnik, Scott Bessent, or H. Jay Eshelman… whose head is further up trumps a$$?
As usual, Nick, you express your opinion with no evidence to substantiate it. You speculate, much like Henny Penny when the acorn hit her on the head and she claimed the sky was falling. Then you project your ignorance on those of us who are trying to explain the detail of reality to you.
As disparaging as it may be for me to say this, I respond to you now only to correct your misinformed/disingenuous record… if not for your sake, for the sake of other VDC readers who might think my silence is implied consent.
The irony is that what you say is correct. Just not from the perspective you present it.
First of all, yes, … ‘the power of denial is tough to overcome’. You exemplify this delusion by ignoring facts.
Second, ‘ownership’ can be ‘nefarious’. So, who would you rather invest your money, Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi, who have never created wealth for anyone but themselves and their contributors, or Donald Trump, who has created wealth for himself and thousands (if not millions) of other people?
Can Trump withdraw the investment if Intel doesn’t meet its obligation under the deal? Well, yes. But Intel didn’t have to accept the deal. As the adage says; ‘If an exchange between two parties is voluntary, it will not take place unless both believe they will benefit from it. Most economic fallacies (especially yours, Nick) derive from the neglect of this simple insight, from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another.”
This is the way free enterprise works.
Is the investment a ‘power move’? See above.
Re: “Just think about the free market where trump invests government money in some companies, but not all companies.”
This is yet another uninformed misrepresentation of reality. Trump isn’t the one who initially invested this taxpayer money in Intel. It was, speaking of ‘nefarious’ investments, the Biden administration’s deal, through direct funding grants from the U.S. Department of Commerce under the CHIPS and Science Act to support its semiconductor manufacturing projects. Grants that were based losely on performance success.
And who profited from the inside information on the CHIPS Act? How about Nancy Pelosi and her husband, who made stock trades in companies like Nvidia shortly before the CHIPS Act legislative actions were announced. Pelosi’s stock portfolio is reported to have outperformed Warren Buffett over the years.
The aspect you ignore, Nick, is that Trump ‘converted’ the CHIPS grant monies into ‘an equity stake’ in Intel Corp. so the American taxpayers can gain on Intel’s successes – as Pelosi did when buying Nvidia stock on the sly. But Trump’s equity deal was openly publicized. It was a ‘good trade’.
Re: “I presume he’ll be totally unbiased toward those companies and will refrain from favoritism.”
Trump better be biased. It’s taxpayer money he’s investing. While the Obama and Biden administrations were biased in favor of Communist China, sending U.S. manufacturing to China and allowing the theft of technology patents (allegedly in exchange for millions of dollars sent to Biden’s shell companies), Trump is now enforcing ‘America First’ policies.
This isn’t ‘spin’, Nick. It’s factual content, available to you and everyone else.
Thanks for being the arbiter of truth, Jay. And thanks for telling me that I’m wrong, yet right. And thanks for pointing out how you think trump should be biased toward certain companies. Sounds like a great way to run a free-market country, eh? You’ve been reading Orwell too much. Your fluency in Newspeak is stunning. I genuinely appreciate your responses, btw. If nothing else, trump is learning from China that government ownership in business is a good thing. Perhaps instead of just socialism, we can call trump’s investment democratic socialism? You might win over some far left people in that case.
Re: “Robert Ludnik, Scott Bessent, or H. Jay Eshelman… whose head is further up trumps a$$?”
Enough said.
After I read “Jay, this has to be the most hilarious post you’ve done! ” I immediately recognized this as a personal attack. This is not a rational argument from Nick: it is an emotional and psychological attack.
He should have outed Bernie too!
“RFK Jr. Accuses Elizabeth Warren Point-Blank Of Being Shill For Big Pharma”
RFK has in the recent passed “outed” Boinie for his hypocricy, to the tune of a couple of million $ or so. The look on Boinie’s face was so “precious” I wish I had a poster of it !
RFK could reduce health care costs by 30% when he gets rid of vaccines causing too many issues and if he goes to pychiatric drugs that are killing people through homicide and suicide the world will be a much better place and instantly more affordable. Throw in the latest cancer treatments with Ivermectin and a couple other generic drugs and we’d be 40% cheaper and healthier.
Course if you could cure cancer for $80, vs $70,000 in chemo, which one do you think earns the hospitals, doctors and drug dealers more money?
Crime apparently does pay, very well in Vermont.
Well said, Neil!
When you think he (Bernie) can’t act any worse, he does. We know why. It’s called $$$$).
Oh Bernie, please just shut up already…
If it wasn’t for the fact that people think that Boinie is a Vermonter, which pizzes me off to no end, I’d actually find the loon entertaining ! But when a news report has a label under his cartoonish, red faced, crap spewing mouth that states, “Bernie Sanders, Independent, Vermont”, I wanna hurl !
Regarding Bernie’s accent…I wonder how many people recognize that Brooklyn accent in other people and say “oh, you must be from Vermont”…
“ In a review of Sanders’ publicly available campaign donation information, ABC News identified at least three contributions of more than $200 from two individual donors who could be considered executives at companies included on the list”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-accepted-pharma-executives-donations-prior-pledge/story?id=64390750
Bernie, the boy who cried wolf. After thirty years of this, no one wants to listen anymore. Time to quit.
I support RFK!!
The Amish don’t have autism, why?
Probably don’t have SIDs either..l
What has Bernie stalin Sanders accomplished is his career?
Raising money Nationwide for Democratic National Committee
Meanwhile over at the White House, Billy Goat Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Tim Cook and a band of tech billionaires (Elon excluded) were wining and dining with the “treacherous dealer”? (Isaiah 21:2 – interesting insight in that verse)
Fortune Sept 4, 2025: “The White House confirmed that the guest list for the dinner is also set to include Google founder Sergey Brin and CEO Sundar Pichai, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and founder Greg Brockman, Oracle CEO Safra Catz, Blue Origin CEO David Limp, Micron CEO Sanjay Mehrotra, TIBCO Software chairman Vivek Ranadive, Palantir executive Shyam Sankar, Scale AI founder and CEO Alexandr Wang and Shift4 Payments CEO Jared Isaacman.”
Missing this meeting appears to be Slender Man (Peter Thiel) and Beetlejuice (Alex Karp). Slender Man is busy hosting conferences about the anti-christ in San Fran and Beetlejuice likely working to squash the rumurs of inflated valuation figures that made his company look so good to investors. Plausible deniability rules the day, the markets, and the land.
“Keep your enemies close!”
In summation regarding the hearing with RFK, Vice President Vance appropriately stated that the Democrats “are full of s**t.”
Most Republicans, too.
Which is why I LOVE Senator Sanders. He shouted to RFK Jr. that everyone in the room took money from pharma, “But not you???!!”
RFK Jr: “I have no idea what you are talking about.”
Bernie Get-Off-My-Lawn Sanders exposed the whole racket. THANKS, BERNIE!!!
Tyler, Although I don’t care for our Senator he was smart about one thing. Taking money from Pharmaceutical Industry in amounts from personal accounts that are below the reportable threshold so he can claim he took money from ‘individuals’. Many reports in election season that he was taking many contributions from pharmaceutical employees, small amount add up.
Ron, wait for the ActBlue hearings and investigation. My bet is Bernie’s “individuals” are smurfs. He’s in it up to his eyebrows now, post Hillary capitulation and payoff.
Good point Tyler… but I don’t think he meant to say that in a frustrated state of mind. Crap everywhere. He busted open the door.
Bernie is and has always been right about one thing…that big corporate money controls the political winds in the US…and now it is obvious that Vermont’s (Brooklyn’s really) own anti-capitalist, socialist, leftist windbag is the best example of what that corporate money can buy.
Rich, I still don’t call him a Socialist, sticking to his roots. Not sure if you were here then or remember when he first came to Vermont in the mid 1980’s running for Mayor of Burlington on the Communist Party, with one of his first actions as Mayor was to issue a nationwide invitation to homeless people to set up a tent city on City Hall grounds. Also thinking about his honeymoon in the old Soviet Union, where it was very difficult to get into the Country without sponsorship, wonder who that sponsor was. Once a communist party member always a communist.
Sanders turns beet red, while failing his arms around like a lunatic, forcefully pointing/jabbing his finger, at everyone, so I can’t understand a word he is saying, he is a spitting and a sputtering, so much, trying to drown out Kennedy speaking, but I think there is a method to his madness.
That is to out shout, and overwhelm, any thing said, about Bernie being 100% in the pockets of big pharma… while the nation, and state, gets sicker, each hundred dollar bill, overflowing out of Bernie’s wallet..,vote the fast talking city slicker from Brooklyn, out!
He has sucked the taxpayer tit long enough!
We need new blood! A new broom sweeps clean…VOTE HIM OUT!!! He’s bent!
Bernie…retire!
You are already set for life, on the taxpayers dime…go to pasture, please.
Have you no pride?
Have you no shame?
Have you no respect?
Nope!
VIP 1: regarding “How can people be so ignorant?” The comments on website is a lesson for me on that very topic, which is the reason I keep annoying people. Thank you for leading the way! You ever think that your computer screen is a mirror and that which you write about bernie is really a reflection of yourself? And the people who support Bernie in vermont are not poor. I know many of them with successful business and professions. I never voted for bernie, btw. But I’m not so naive to think trump has done any good for our nation. All he has done is get rid of jobs, raise grocery prices, obliterate the free market, and put us on a course for a socialist dictatorship! And soon, war against…. chicago.
PSA… In case you’re not aware, there is a Senate hearing next Tuesday (9/9) at 2PM. Ron Johnson with the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, will be discussing a study that was buried in 2020 by the Head of Infectious Disease at the most prestigious medical institution in the world. He (name unknown to me at this time) did a study on vaxxed vs. unvaxxed after speaking with Del Bigtree who challenged him to do a study proving Del wrong. This came about after Del had just released the documentary VAXXED… he did the study, and he was horrified by the results, thus the burial of the information. So, on Tuesday Aaron Siri, attorney for ICAN (founded by Del Bigtree) will be testifying before the committee. They will also be showing the Trailer from Del’s new documentary to be released on October 3rd called “An Inconvenient Study”
IMO this is going to explode some woke heads… I’m so excited to watch this hearing and hope some of you join in. It will be live streamed on thehighwire.com/
Wrote myself a nice lil’ song
Goes something like this.
Bernie’s bags are packed
He’s ready to go
Vermont doesn’t want him anymore
Hear Brooklyn is calling him
So get ready to soar.
So bye bye Bernie forevermore.
(sung to the tune of Leaving on a Jet Plane)
Bernie gets the goldmine, we all get the shaft.
Bernie is delusional and grossly misinformed on vaccines and clearly many other issues- all of which make him highly dangerous to all Vermonters and the entire country, especially our children. He needs to go ASAP.
Thank you covering this Paul.
Boinie is a walking, crap spewing fountain of anti American disinformation. Whatever POTUS Trump says, (or any other Republican/conservative) Boinie will say the opposite, or deny. RFK Jr. is at present, for whatever reason, an ally to POTUS. That Boinie, Pocahantis, and the rest of the Communist freak show are trying to discredit him, is no surprise. It’s what they do ! I suspect that after an election cycle or two, the wacky left of the Democrat party will become such an anchor around the neck of “centrist” Democrats, (less wacky) that the one or two left in that decrepit party, realizing that they want to abandon that sinking ship, will vacate it for greener, more sane, and safer pastures. Until then maybe buy stock in companies that produce straight jackets, stringless shoes, rubber walls as I have a feeling that when people wake up to the fact that Dems are loony, we’ll need a lot of these items !
Patrick, did you know the Boinie supports Trump’s decision for the federal government to have ownership in a business called Intel? Are you a fan of expanding government ownership in businesses like Trump is? Just wondering because Boinie has been championing socialism for decades. Seems like your loverboy Trump is in love with Boinie’s idea of government ownership in the means of producing computer chips. What say you? You like taking a play from the Boinie book? Or are you delusional and think that when the government, under trump, purchases ownership in a business it is not really socialism? Just wondering.
Wow. The comments are on fire. Off topic mostly, but on fire.
How about this: Sanders: “Against the overwhelming body of evidence within the medicine and science, what are Secretary Kennedy’s views?,” wrote Sanders. “He has claimed that autism is caused by vaccines, despite more than a dozen rigorous scientific studies involving hundreds of thousands of children that have found no connection between vaccines and autism.”
My question is: where are those “rigorous scientific studies”? I have not seen many, and the few I have seen have glaring errors. On the other hand, I have seen studies that do show a clear connection.
Where is the “overwhelming evidence” Mr. Sanders speaks of? I do not see any strong evidence that ALL vaccines are mandatory and should ALL be given to young children, ALL at the same time.
There are definitely some vaccines that work. But similarly to anti-biotics, just because they work sometimes, does it mean we MUST ALWAYS TAKE THEM?
At minimum, before bad mouthing the idea, we need to do a study on the group of children that do not get the common vaccines. The study will take a period of at least 30 years, and hopefully we will have a large number of people in that study from a broad range of locations and backgrounds.
That study has ALREADY been done… look at the AMISH!!!!!!
According to Snopes, the amish don’t go to doctors very often so they are underdiagnosed. And, yes, they do get autism. So do native americans and europeans and people from Mongolia and every corner of the world. I’d put my PowerBall ticket money on a bet that people in rural Amazonia get autism too. But heck, who’s counting? Organic juice wont prevent the ailment either.
Yes. Despite studies suggesting autism is absent in Amish communities, it does exist.
But despite claims of under-reporting, Amish autism occurs at significantly low rates. Estimates indicate a rate of about 1 in 271 for Amish children compared to 1 in 56 children in the broader U.S. population.
The Snopes report exaggerates the incidence of autism in the Amish community by stating, on one hand, that 244 of 1000 Amish parents surveyed said some of their children received vaccinations.
For one thing, the report doesn’t say what vaccines the Amish received were. There’s a big difference between an mRNA flu vaccine, for example, and a rabies vaccine. Flu has, at worst, a 1% to 2% fatality rate. Rabies, on the other hand, has a nearly 100% mortality rate. And despite what some commenters here may contend, the Amish aren’t stupid, they don’t ‘shun’ all technology, and if there was ever a community that would ‘shun’ a survey by ‘the English’, it’s the Amish.
Anecdotally, I happen to know this to be the case, having grown-up on a family farm in Lancaster County, PA with many Mennonite aunts, uncles and cousins. And, to be fair, I’ve taken a rabies vaccine after dealing with a rabid racoon. But I’ve never taken a flu shot and likely never will. I most certainly will not take one of the current mRNA Covid scam jabs. After all, one of the tenants the Amish and Mennonites recognize better than most groups I know is that hubris is no substitute for common sense.
According to the fact that my daughter’s father was Amish (I’m not) I can attest to the fact that they do go to doctors, but usually healers not the drug pushers.
Unfortunately, someone in TX and someone in MO won the Powerball jackpot, so your ticket is worthless… lol
Dear organicjude,
Per the editor: Real, full names are now required. All comments without real full names will be unapproved or trashed.
Thank you everyone for raising this issue. I unpublish every pseudonym I see, regardless of content, as soon as I see it, which sometimes is not quick enough. In some cases I edit the comment to use the real name. Please make every effort to include your real, full name when you comment. We’re getting a lot, lot better with the comments. As I expected, using real names has promoted more respectful, ideas-based dialogue. Still a work in progress, thank you everyone for your cooperation.
David Davis: Per the editor, there should also be… “No mocking or personal criticism of other commenters. No profanity, explicitly racist or sexist language allowed.”
Nonetheless, the next time I’m accused of having a ‘cranial-rectal insertion’ by a guy whose expertise is primarily in making salad bowls and riding bicycles, I likely still won’t complain.
But for the time being, I know Guy Page does his best to enforce the rules. And we will be better served to address the facts of each matter discussed.
P.S. Thank you Jude for being forthright.
Jay, I love you too. I suppose, as you suggest, one’s career and hobbies (expertise as you put it)encapsulate all there is to know about a person. Sentiments like that suggest more about how you analyze others than it does about the others you analyze. It may do you some good to step down as the self-proclaimed arbiter of truth on this forum. Let others make up their own minds. It is ok.
Re: ” It may do you some good to step down as the self-proclaimed arbiter of truth on this forum. Let others make up their own minds. It is ok.”
Almost missed this comment.
My point Mr. Rosato is not, in this case at least, based on any specific certainty, other than that of your persistent rude behavior and absence of factual citations. If you have some level of expertise and knowledge in the positions you hold and those you criticize, why don’t you cite it along with some facts for a change – and *then* ‘let others make up their own minds’.
Dear David, I have spoken with Guy and he hasn’t changed it…
Let me introduce myself, I’m Jude Piser
Hi Jude, this is Joe Yoder (Mennonite grandparents)
Oh, too cool, you’ve been on my mind lately, hope you are well and thriving!!!!!
I feel your pain Bernie, I’ve wanted you to resign for years…suck it up buttercup!
Bernie’s denial that injecting #72 Aluminum, &/or Thimerosol injections into our children (#72 injections are recommended by the CDC age 0- 18yo) has no side effects? … is irresponsible, and irrational. Anyone, scientist or not, can see the accumulative effect of this much aluminum, or mercury is a very bad idea.
The other concern about Bernie is his 100% belief in the “Climate Change” hoax … It’s especially concerning for Vermont. … His supporting this insanity will be very detrimental to the Farmer’s up here that we all rely on for good, healthy food (that Gates can’t load with mRNA poisons).
He needs to either educate himself (CO2 levels are low … not high; we need more Co2 … not less) … the planet is in a cooling phase … And all these “Flash Floods” taking out entire towns (e,g,. North Carolina where Blackrock just purchased land to mine Lithium) were Geo-engineered).
And these “wild fires”; (Lahaina / Paradise, CA) were caused by Directed Energy Weapons) … DARPA & HAARP.
The Military Industrial Complex (MIC) &
Healthcare Industrial Complex (HIC)
are Two Wings of the same DoD Bird;
both are Weapons of Mass Destruction.