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Vermont Capitol Police Chief disagrees with emptying State House room during trans disruption

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By Guy Page

The Vermont Sergeant At Arms’ decision to remove everyone – protesters and the groups that reserved the room alike – from the Room 11 meeting room Wednesday afternoon, March 12 after transgender activists disrupted a detransitioning education event was “a disservice to free speech,” Capitol Police Chief John Poleway told VDC Wednesday afternoon. 

Poleway said he plans to have a conversation with Sgt. at Arms Agatha Kessler about her handling of the event. Minutes after transgender activists danced and sang loudly during a Detransitioning and Detransitioners education event sponsored by the Vermont Family Alliance and Vermont Speaks Up, Kessler entered the room and informed everyone that the room would be cleared in five minutes if the disruption continued.

Capitol Police Chief John Poleway

When challenged by VDC to explain what the detransitioning educators who had reserved the room were supposed to do without a venue to speak, and why she hadn’t asked the disrupters to leave, Kessler said the room is public and available for anyone to enter and speak. When pressed to further explain, Kessler held up her hand and said, “four minutes.”

Whatever her intent, Kessler’s decision in practice denied organizer Renee McGuinness of the opportunity to tell listeners how Chloe Cole successfully detransitioned after undergoing gender transition as a teenager.

Poleway and two of his uniformed officers were standing in the corridor outside while Kessler delivered her ultimatum. They had not been asked by Kessler to remove the disruptive protesters, he said. 

At about 2:50 PM, after both transgender and detransition advocates had left the building, VDC encountered Poleway in a State House corridor and asked him to explain the reasons for closing the room.

He said he would have preferred the situation had been handled differently. Shouting over the people who reserved the room essentially deprived them of their First Amendment rights, he said. He would have preferred being empowered to ask the disruptive individuals to leave. 

Poleway said he plans to speak with Kessler and other State House leaders about how to address the problem in the future, which he predicted could be soon because publicity about the event may empower others to disrupt free speech with which they disagree. 

Kessler was not available for comment Wednesday afternoon. 

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9 replies »

  1. Sargent of Arms Kessler should know the difference between public showing up to have their say in an orderly fashion, and those who show up to disrupt a meeting. If you can’t tell the difference, resign ❗

  2. Agatha claimed to have limited resources. She told me she did not have resources if the protesters became violent. She asked me to cancel our event and suggested we hold it in a private location. She was speaking to three capital police at the bottom of the stairs when we turned out of the hall in which Room 11 is located.

    • I hope this is straightened quickly as this will affect all events in the future. Get it right ! Thanks to Chief Poleway for speaking up for those who were wronged by this gutless decision.

  3. In the old days, a Sgt at Arms had big “arms” and knew the difference between protecting Free Expression and allowing it to be infringed by disorderly insurrectionists. (afraid to use an incorrect pronoun here so will just refer to the Sgt at Arms) had security personnel available right outside and refused to recognize what was clearly a disruption and a breach of decorum. The Sgt at Arms used the word “unfortunately”, then corrected self, when announcing the room was to be emptied. It is “fortunate” for the disruptors/insurrectionists that it was shut down since that was indeed their intention. The Sgt at Arms even said: “I’m going to shut the doors and ask everyone to leave the room”. Sorry to nit pick here, but wouldn’t it make more sense to first empty the room and then shut the doors? They picked a real winner here…and they wonder why Trump is promoting qualification and merit-based hiring over DEI???

    • I worked on the Montpelier Complex as a BGS Security Officer for years, including events like the budget address, State of the State, inogurations, and every large rally like “Womens Day”, same “Sex Marriage,” and the Governor’s signing of the magizine limit/72 hr. waiting period to name a few. It was always comforting to me to know that MPD was a radio transmission away, as I’m sure they were yesterday. They are/were always prompt and professional. Thank you MPD !

  4. Is the Sgt. of Arms hiding an “Adams Apple” under the black neck scarf?

  5. Pretty clear to see what side of the aisle this Sgt with no Arms lands. Zip up your fly; your bias is showing.

  6. Have the democrats and their useful idiots ever engaged in a calm and meaningful discussion? They always seems to be singing, yelling, and disrupting.

  7. It was stunning to hear “I don’t think there is going to be any productive work done in this room this afternoon” by “Sergeant at Arms” Agatha Kessler. How did she come to that conclusion? There could have been a very productive meeting if Kessler had actually done her job! All she needed to do was remove those who obviously and very intentionally were there to breach the peace and cause a disruption with a great deal of noise, which is a criminal offense under Vermont law. Kessler should either resign or be relieved of her duties immediately.