Covid-19

October: 57% Vermont Covid-19 deaths fully vaccinated

by Guy Page

57% of all Vermont Covid-19 deaths in October were fully vaccinated, according to State of Vermont statistics. 

From Oct. 1 to Oct. 30, among Vermont residents there were 21 fully vaccinated deaths (rate of .49 per 10,000 residents), zero partially vaccinated, and 16 unvaccinated deaths (rate of .81 per 10,000 residents).

A total of 383 Vermonters have died during the pandemic, with only one under age 30. The monthly mortality statistics do not reference age, nor how many occurred in nursing homes.

As reported elsewhere today in Vermont Daily Chronicle, Vermont yesterday experienced the highest daily count of Covid-19 cases ever – 487. Yesterday also saw the highest number of tests as well, and the percentage of positivity (2.7%) was about average, Gov. Phil Scott said.

Today’s count may top yesterday,  with 377 already by 10:56 AM. 16 Vermonters suffering from Covid-19 are in the ICU.

Gov. Scott yesterday referred again to “the pandemic of the unvaccinated,” citing higher than average case counts in the lightly vaccinated Northeast Kingdom and the high percentage of hospitalizations among unvaccinated Vermonters. Case statistics from yesterday and today do not include a direct vaxxed/unvaxxed breakdown. 

“The continued high number of cases reflect a concerning level of ongoing community spread of the virus,” Vermont Department of Health spokesperson Ben Truman said. “With Sars-CoV-2 and the Delta variant, we are dealing with a very different creature than other viruses in the state – a highly infectious respiratory virus that is exceptionally good at moving from person-to-person.”

Some past abnormally high daily counts were due to data counting glitches. That’s not the case with yesterday’s count, Truman said. But the trend of light testing on weekends may cause high one-day totals.

“From the data perspective, there are no glitches or delays associated with today’s numbers. I do want to note that one factor in the high numbers reported today is the spike and dips we see in positive reports on a given day,” Truman said. “For example, we are finding in general that fewer people tend to get tested over the weekend than later during the week. This means that, relative to the positivity rate, we would see more positive cases reflected in the results that are reported later in the week – which contributes to the one-day jumps.”

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  1. I really dislike the way data is being presented by the state, as there is no specificity. The PCR test has a high rate of false positives, especially if the magnification threshold is set over 24 cycles. No one in the state ever shares the magnification threshold that labs are using for testing. Other very important data includes how many people are dying and the ages of these people. Are these people dying from COVID-19 or with COVID-19. A very important discriminator. I do not care how many people test positive because of the PCR tests ability to detect dead virus pieces common across all COVID viruses, such as the common cold or the flu. I am amazed that our state health officials continue to push fear, instead of real data.

  2. Although your headline is deceiving, thank you for publishing your recent statistics regarding Covid-19 deaths given that many of your readers are vaccine deniers.

    Let’s remember that no vaccine in history has ever been 100% effective. Since there are more than four times as many Vermonters vaccinated as non-vaccinated, there should be at least 67 vaccinated deaths assuming both populations have similar characteristics. Since there are vastly more elderly and those with compromising conditions in the vaccinated population, the statistics you cite give even more credence to the vaccine’s effectiveness.

    Keep up the good work!

    • I am not a vaccine denier, whatever the hell that means. I and my child have had all our vaccines. I should not be so branded, shamed and stereotyped for not wanting to take a drug only approved through an EUA. The fact remains that there have been no long-term studies. Questionable data, a PCR test with a high rate of false positive results and the suppression of any scientific study that does not support the narrative pushed by the Fauci and the corporate media and big pharma.

    • No vaccine may be 100% effective but they are 95-99% effective. Not 50% or less effective like this one. I love when people use that dumb line. Are you actually trying to say that immunity waning to under 50% in less than 6 months is an effective vaccine??

      • Not only not effective, but <50% would not even qualify the vaccine for EUA, much less for the "full" approval it got.

    • These reports simply verify what most everyone now understands.

      “People inoculated against Covid-19 are just as likely to spread the delta variant of the virus to contacts in their household as those who haven’t had shots, according to new research.”
      https://news.bloomberglaw.com/coronavirus/getting-vaccinated-doesnt-stop-people-from-spreading-delta

      And in Vermont, at least over the last three months according to these reports, the vaccinated folks are ‘just as likely’ to die from Covid too.

      Most of those to whom you refer are better characterized as vaccine-hesitant, given the significantly limited time these ‘synthetic’ vaccines have been tested and used. Consider the data now showing the significant and persistent efficacy of ‘natural immunity’, compared to the limited time the vaccines remain effective – not to mention the risk that the vaccines are causing immune dysregulation over time.

      So, go ahead, call them ‘vaccine-deniers’ if you must. Nonetheless, we now know they are no threat to you or society at large – at least, if I assume correctly, no more a threat than you are for having been vaccinated. After all, far be it from me to cast judgement on anyone. History will tell us, if we live through this, how we will all be characterized.

  3. An 80 year old man who has said we didn’t need a mask, went to we need a mask; to we need 2 masks; to we won’t need a mask if fully vaccinated; to we need to wear a mask anyway; to we need a booster and a mask; to more vaccinated people are dying than the unvaccinated – and he NOW tells us that 5 year olds need to be vaccinated?

    Now absolutely none of the MSM will report on Igor Danchenko being charged in a criminal indictment with five counts of lying to the FBI about the sources he used for the bogus information he delivered to former British spy Christopher Steele that comprised the bulk of his dossier – the same media who crucified Pres. Trump over this false narrative. Covid-19 changed an election outcome due to cheating on mail-in ballots ….
    They all should be tried for treason.

    • Kim Strassel in the Wall Street Journal has aired out the whole Danchenko-Dolan business, that she calls “the scandal of the century”. All of this I hope is criminally liable, but it’s not treason: adhering to the enemy and giving them aid and comfort. Constitution Art. III Sec 3.

  4. Until the co-morbidities are listed with the cause of death, there will NEVER be an accurate death rate.

  5. So, we are to accept that even “vaccinated” Vermont residents will die AND we are to accept that there is no treatment available, save for monoclonal antibodies and Remvisidir? That’s good enough for Phil and Mark Levine? Is Levine to tell us that everything possible was done to prevent those 37 deaths? Were the individual patients given the option of some combination of Vitamin D, Zinc, Invermectin, HCQ, Steroids, Azithromycin and blood thinners? If not, Why? Because fauci? Not acceptable. We are 20+ months into doing things the fauci way and it’s working fabulously?
    Maybe, Governor Scott, it’s time to take your foot off the “vaccine” accelerator, pump the brakes and try a different groove on this circular Covid racetrack. There, a racing analogy- you might relate to that. Try purchasing, for Vermont’s population the same Covid treatment protocol that was used in India and Indonesia. Distribute it as a back-up plan. You and Vermont’s 630,000 residents have nothing to lose, everything to gain. It might slow SARS-CoV-2 down a bit, while you wait for Merck and Pfizer’s super pills to be approved.

    • Merck held the patent for Ivermectin, which is now off patent, so Merck isn’t raking in money from it. Wonder if they only changed a couple of molecules or changed it just enough to get a new patent.

  6. To put this into perspective: On November 4, 2020, Vermont had 30 cases in a completely unvaccinated population.

    Soon it will become obvious, as it’s becoming obvious in the world’s most vaccinated countries, that the vaccine is the problem, not the unvaccinated. The number of unvaccinated people in Vermont continues to drop. The number of vaccinated continues to increase. The cases and fatalities in Vermont also continue to increase. Question: Should Vermont’s increasing cases and deaths be blamed on the group that is shrinking in size, or on the group that is growing? Why are cases not decreasing in step with the decrease of the unvaccinated population? Think about that.

    As one biologist I follow notes, “A natural infection pushes the virus in a random direction, and the vaccine pushes it in a very specific direction, and away from the 2020 spike [protein]. And that’s why you are seeing all these reemerging, repeated mutations showing up in the same places.”

    And that’s what you get with a “leaky,” non-sterilizing vaccine.

    • Does anyone know if the people who have already had COVID and have natural immunity are now getting COVID? I haven’t seen any statistics on reinfection. The so-called experts downplay natural immunity, but there are plenty of doctors who say natural immunity from having had COVID is better than a shot.

      • The only reason anyone might get a natural infection twice is because of retired PCR tests and testing people who are not even remotely ill. If someone says they got really sick from covid twice, you better make them prove it. Then I’d recommend placing some high stakes bets.

    • “A Pandemic of the Vaccinated” just ain’t going to play well at Phil’s news conference. So until all of Vermont’s population is “vaccinated” and boostered, and boostered yet again- he will continue the dogma assigned to him. Yet there is no doubt that short of physically forced intervention, some will (rightfully) hold fast and refuse the ‘cure’. Phil will be able to continue the monologue until either these new covid buster pills are approved, or the vax falls flat. I wouldn’t give odds on which happens first.
      There’ll be no calvary riding in to set things right, this has become a case of educating ourselves and making our own decision- and preparing for what that decision brings. There is enough anecdotal and real evidence of “unapproved” treatment courses working, that we can choose a path to use should it be needed. To rely on government- state or federal- to insure our own health is a fools errand- and it has been for decades. The “experts” trotted out by government are using fear as their primary tool for compliance of the population. It’s worked pretty well to now, but that \’s changing. People are just beginning to discover that they really are on their own with this virus.

  7. Re: “From Oct. 1 to Oct. 30, among Vermont residents there were 21 fully vaccinated deaths (rate of .49 per 10,000 residents), zero partially vaccinated, and 16 unvaccinated deaths (rate of .81 per 10,000 residents).”

    Keep in mind that the so-called ‘unvaccinated’ cohort is defined by the health department as including those whose vaccination status is unknown in addition to out-of-state people who die here.

    And the statistic comparing the number of deaths to the over-all population is also misleading.

    Re: “Gov. Scott yesterday referred again to “the pandemic of the unvaccinated,” citing higher than average case counts in the lightly vaccinated Northeast Kingdom and the high percentage of hospitalizations among unvaccinated Vermonters. Case statistics from yesterday and today do not include a direct vaxxed/unvaxxed breakdown.”

    I would like to know just how many of the new infections are vaccinated or not.

    • The V vs. non-V numbers are going to misleading for several reasons:

      The CDC excludes breakthrough cases if they are identified within 14 days of the recipient’s last vaccine dose.

      As of May 2021, the CDC transitioned “from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only vaccine breakthrough infections that result in hospitalization or death.”

      The CDC’s current guidance for fully vaccinated people states “It is recommended that fully vaccinated people with no COVID-19-like symptoms and no known exposure should be exempted from routine screening testing programs, if feasible.”

      The CDC, as of May 2021, issued new guidance to labs to lower PCR test cycle thresholds to 28 cycles when testing vaccinated people only, down from the 37 cycles run by most labs since the pandemic began—thus lowering the sensitivity of the test and creating a double standard in testing vaccinated vs. unvaccinated people.

      All of these statistical tricks slant the data. Is Vermont following this guidance?

      • Thank you John for providing this commentary. I also commented on poor and nonspecific data being pushed. This included the use of the PCR Test and false positives resulting from the magnification threshold being set over 24 cycles. You provided many other interesting and relevant points.

      • It all sounds eerily familiar.

        “These rules must be translated into real-life tactics that are fluid and responsive to the situation at hand.”

        Rule 3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

        Rule 5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

        Rule 8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

        Rule 9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

        Rule 10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

        Rule 11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

        Rule 12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

        Rule 13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

        Shazzam and John McClaughry make a good point above. ‘Don’t pay any attention to that man behind the curtain.’

      • Referring to what John K. said, So a person gets the shot and within 14 days dies of Covid-19. Then, the state counts the death as unvaccinated due to Covid-19. So, if the injection caused the onset of the so-called virus the state doesn’t want anyone to know that the injection caused the death. There is so much misinformation and censoring no wonder people are now hesitant.

  8. Guy , You Missing the Picture . They are Lying threw their Teeth about the # of Deaths of Fully Jabbed people . That is A guarantee

  9. In other words – let’s turn this narrative around. Since March 2020 to now, November 2021, Phil Scott, his administration, and the Legislature has failed on every level to effectively get this situation under control or even manage it without lurching to and fro. We are no better and no further along getting this situation under control after spending millions of taxpayer money. There is no other option, no other solution, no other way to move forward than get a shot of an unknown, untested, experimental fluid of some sort. We don’t know what it is because our representatives, our doctors, our healthcare masters, our employers don’t know what it is either – but you must take it anyway or you can’t work, travel abroad, or see a show. Makes complete sense and instills the upmost confidence in our government. NOT

  10. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers now has Covid and will miss Sunday’s game. He misled his teammates when he said he was vaccinated when it was learned that he had taken ivermectin. One form of this drug is used to treat horses. Maybe Rodgers could go play for the Colts or Broncos.

    • Re: “One form of this drug is used to treat horses.”

      Yet another misleading claim. Some horse worming medicines (not all) have about 1% ivermectin in their formulas. Ivermectin is also an FDA approved drug for use in humans to treat a variety of parasitic infections including parasitic worms, hookworm and whipworm.

      And if you can get past some of the censorship, you will see that:

      Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro.

      A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture.

      Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing.

      Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines.

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

      We also give horses antibiotics for various infections. Does that mean we humans shouldn’t take antibiotics, unless, of course, we play football for the Colts or Broncos.

  11. From Vtdigger:
    “In total, vaccinated Vermonters had about 1,100 cases of Covid, 29 hospitalizations and 13 deaths in the past two weeks, out of a vaccinated population of nearly 470,000 people.
    By comparison, the 176,000 unvaccinated Vermonters reported nearly 1,800 cases, 48 hospitalizations and nine deaths. (Although they had fewer deaths this week than vaccinated Vermonters, unvaccinated Vermonters still had a higher chance of dying based on how many of them there are. Vermont has 2.6 times as many vaccinated people as unvaccinated.)”

    Why on earth are we looking at deaths compared to total vaccinated. When in history have we ever done that. We look the rate of deaths of the people who have the virus. Well for vaccinated the rate of death is 1.2% chance based on the numbers above (13 deaths / by 1100 cases). For the unvaccinated it is a .5% chance (9 deaths /1800 cases). So if you are vaccinated and got covid in Vermont in the last 2 weeks you had over a 2 times better chance of dying that someone who is unvaccinated. And I admit based on the numbers that the vaccine may be reducing your chance of getting covid overall, but you can obviously still get it, and if you do, then you actually have a higher chance of dying. Add in the chances of side effects from the vaccine its self and I’m I’ll set. I’ll take my chances with my natural immune system for a virus with a 99.5%+ survivability rate.

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