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Gun carry ban limited to hospitals

by Eric Davis, Gun Owners of Vermont

A new version of the S30, Chittenden Sen. Phil Baruth’s proposed ban on carrying firearms in many public places, strikes all the previous wording and establishes a single new criminal punishment for carrying a gun inside a hospital.  It also includes a study to determine if the policy prohibiting firearms at the Statehouse is sufficient or if it needs to be “strengthened” through legislation. 

The committee reviewed the changes at a meeting on Friday Feb 26. No further action has been scheduled on the bill yet. But the committee agenda is wide open for the second half of the week. It wouldn’t be surprising if this bill saw some more discussion and a possible vote soon.

Over in the House, the Judiciary Committee led by Maxine Grad (Moretown) and Martin LaLonde (Burlington) blazes forward with H133, their latest crusade to take guns without due process, despite objections from interested parties.  As always, our presence in that committee seems as it’s been largely for show. GoVT has testified a few times on this bill and our testimony can be viewed here, here, and here.

To give you the Cliff notes: the bill says that the court can order a person subject to a temporary Relief From Abuse order (or RFA) to relinquish their firearms and they may do so “ex-parte,” meaning without notice to the defendant.  There are a lot of moving parts to this one so we encourage folks to read the linked testimony for more details.  Testimony from Vermont Traditions Coalition and Vermont Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs can also be viewed on the committee page by searching the committee documents by the bill number H.133.  This bill is scheduled for committee discussion and a possible vote first thing when they return on Tuesday.  

Should either the House or Senate bills pass out of committee, they then head to the floor of their respective chamber for consideration.  The Joint Rules Committee set the date for crossover this year for this Friday, March 12.  Bills must be voted out of their committee of origin by crossover to be considered by the other chamber this session.

We are encouraging everyone to contact the members of these committees as well as your personal Representatives and Senators who may not be in these committees and ask them politely to take no action this session on firearms but keep their promise to focus their efforts on recovery from the crazy year we just had (and are still having.)  Remind them that we are currently not being allowed the access to our government that is customary in Vermont and therefore, contentious issues should be tabled for further discussion when we can return to the Statehouse.

If you need help finding your legislators, please comment, message, or email info@gunownersofvermont.org  We are happy to help put you in contact with your elected officials anytime.

Lastly, I’ll close as I always do by reminding everyone that you can help out tremendously by becoming an official member of GoVT here: https://gunownersofvermont.org/about-us/join-us/  We are an all-volunteer, grassroots organization and every little bit helps.

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  1. Senator Phil Baruth and Representative Maxine Grad need to find new quests, and leave Vermont gun owners alone. There are plenty of real problems for the Vermont Legislature to spend time, and taxpayer money on these day. I hear tell that there is something called a pandemic (?) ravaging everything from personal health, and safety to people’s financial wellness. Maybe they should refocus on problems like that ?

  2. ALL GUN CONTROL UNDER THE CONSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL! Government does not give us our rights. Our rights are not given to us by the Constitution. Our rights are given to us by God and are inherent to us as human beings and by the Laws of Nature. These rights that we are born with are affirmed to us by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments of the Constitution and specify what the government can and cannot do to us as citizens of the United States. Government’s only power is the power which is enumerated to it by the Constitution. The federal government, a state, county or town can not pass a law contrary to the Constitution. Article 6 the Supremacy Clause makes the Constitution the supreme law of the land. Under our Constitution the government is not delegated the authority to legislate, enforce, or adjudicate laws pertaining to the exercise of our rights under the Constitution – Period. The government is not delegated the authority by our Constitution to require the government’s permission to exercise any right affirmed to us under the Constitution. The government is not delegated the authority by our Constitution to compel us to waive our guaranteed 4th Amendment right to be secure from unwarranted interrogation, search, or seizure in the absence of probable cause of criminal conduct. Or compel us to waive our guaranteed 5th Amendment right to due process as a precondition to being allowed (or denied) the exercise of our right to keep and bear arms. This violation of our 4th and 5th Amendment rights happens every time that we are interrogated under penalty of perjury without probable cause that a crime has been committed when we fill out B.A.T.F.E form 4473 to purchase a firearm. The government is not delegated the authority by our Constitution to compel us to waive our 10th Amendment right to a federal government exercising only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution, and State governments are prohibited the exercise of any power prohibited to the States by the United States Constitution.
    The government is not delegated the authority under the 14th Amendment to make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. Government is not delegated by our Constitution the authority to license firearm dealers or operate or fund the most powerful anti-rights government agency on the planet called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Since no Amendment in the Bill of Rights has been repealed thru Article V or by a National Convention of States, the only legal way to change the Constitution, all existing gun control laws presently violate five Amendments of the Bill of Rights and goes against the settled lawof two Supreme Court decisions, Heller vs the District of Columbia 2008 and McDonald vs Chicago 2010. Both decisions affirm that the people’s right to keep and bear arms is an individual right and that citizens are allowed firearms in common use, those small arms or those that operate like them and are issued to our National Guard which comprises of citizen soldiers.

    The purpose of compelled background checks as a precondition to allowing or denying the transfer of a firearm is to deceive firearm owners and prospective owners into unknowingly waiving their rights guaranteed by the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 10th and 14th Amendments so they will have no rights left to claim when the government decides to register and confiscate our firearms. We have a right to keep and bear arms, not a privilege to keep and bear arms. Our rights are beyond the reach of the government and no citizen has to ask government permission to exercise a right. Government has no authority delegated to it by the Constitution to deceive its citizens into waiving their rights or acquiescing to the loss of their rights by subterfuge, scam, fraud, or force. DO NOT VOLUNTARILY GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS !

  3. So was there a study of the effect of gun bans in hospitals? Dollars to donuts there wasn’t. Just a continued nobbling away at our gun rights. So fed up with these leftist idiots.

    • The senator has an unnatural fear of guns and the color orange as does his house counter part Martin Bowtie LaLonde. These two like many other implants are not real men. They hide behind their legislative power to eliminate the objects of their personal fear while trying to strip others of their constitutional rights. Phillip the Great allowed the camels nose to get under the tent in 2018 with Vermont’s first gun control law. These two and Grad, all non-Vermonters won’t stop until the whole camel is in the tent. They need to be voted out by rational adults. And then I realized there aren’t enough rational adults in Chittenden county to make it happen.

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